I was going to install ubuntu on a laptop, but now I think I will use gentoo instead which seems to not find speakup too difficult to maintain and has a very nice frame buffer patch as well. on Tuesday 05/15/2007 Gene Collins(collins at gene3.ait.iastate.edu) wrote > > To put it in language you'll understand, that stinks. Not everyone > wants to use a gui interface. There are still functions under the gui > that are not accessible. As for the argument that Speakup is not > popular, you have only to look at the number of Speakup users on this > list. As for the maintenance issue, speakup is no more difficult to > maintain than any other of the hundreds of modules that habitually are > included. The thing that makes building your own kernel more difficult > is Ubuntu's insistence on using an initrd for a standard system. All > the extra hardware discovery stuff isn't necessary once a system is > installed. Besides which, without speakup, there is no way to do a > server install, and Speakup has never been included in a manner that > would allow a blind person to do an install from a server cd. Mot to > mention the times when Orca or Gnome crashes in some fashion, and the > only way to recover things is by using Speakup from a text console. If > you really have maintenence issues, talk to Kirk and find a way to > resolve them. I think the decission to drop Speakup from Ubuntu is > extreemly short sighted. > > Gene Collins > > >Hi, > > > >As part of an ongoing effort to bring our kernel tree closer with the > >mainline kernel (ideally identical) we have opted to drop the speakup > >patch from our tree. > > > >We have found it fairly difficult to maintain and it has not seen the > >kind of usage that the graphical systems (Orca, etc) have. > > > >It seems that many speakup users traditionally prefer to compile their > >own kernel, which will of course still be an option, and as Ubuntu > >approaches a fairly standard kernel this should be fairly easy. > > > >This does by no means mean that we are reducing our focus on > >accessibility. We have a range of new projects in the works both for the > >visually impaired and other groups. See: > >https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/Specs > > > >Henrik > > > > > >ps. I originally sent this on 30/04, but as was not subscribed it must > >have bounced > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici covici at ccs.covici.com
