To put it in language you'll understand, that stinks. Not everyone wants to use a gui interface. There are still functions under the gui that are not accessible. As for the argument that Speakup is not popular, you have only to look at the number of Speakup users on this list. As for the maintenance issue, speakup is no more difficult to maintain than any other of the hundreds of modules that habitually are included. The thing that makes building your own kernel more difficult is Ubuntu's insistence on using an initrd for a standard system. All the extra hardware discovery stuff isn't necessary once a system is installed. Besides which, without speakup, there is no way to do a server install, and Speakup has never been included in a manner that would allow a blind person to do an install from a server cd. Mot to mention the times when Orca or Gnome crashes in some fashion, and the only way to recover things is by using Speakup from a text console. If you really have maintenence issues, talk to Kirk and find a way to resolve them. I think the decission to drop Speakup from Ubuntu is extreemly short sighted. Gene Collins >Hi, > >As part of an ongoing effort to bring our kernel tree closer with the >mainline kernel (ideally identical) we have opted to drop the speakup >patch from our tree. > >We have found it fairly difficult to maintain and it has not seen the >kind of usage that the graphical systems (Orca, etc) have. > >It seems that many speakup users traditionally prefer to compile their >own kernel, which will of course still be an option, and as Ubuntu >approaches a fairly standard kernel this should be fairly easy. > >This does by no means mean that we are reducing our focus on >accessibility. We have a range of new projects in the works both for the >visually impaired and other groups. See: >https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/Specs > >Henrik > > >ps. I originally sent this on 30/04, but as was not subscribed it must >have bounced > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
