That's what I thought, that's why I downloaded the gnome desktop, which I believe Metacity is part of, and still no dice, but I'll check the logs, as John suggested. Must reinstall that hd into the laptop again though, just moved recently and have to find it. Thanks much all, and keep them suggestions comin' 'cause I'm filing them all away to try. Ubuntu's fun to play with, but grml seems to be more robust in compiling and stuff and I only need X for things like AudioQuake and Sound RTS. Cheereo! -- Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere.
