Where can I find information on Orca? Thanks! Propaine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacob Schmude" <j.schmude@xxxxxxxxx> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 5:05 PM Subject: Re: State of accessibility in linux > Hi Scott > With regard to Gnome accessibility, don't forget about the other > screen reader, Orca. It has great potential and, at least for me, has > superceded gnopernicus completely. It's scriptable and has > independent cursor moving keys similar to speakup, with the ability > to click the mouse where the cursor is as the windows screen readers > do. Voiceover is still much more efficient at this point, yet Orca is > getting better quite fast. > Just my $0.02 > > > On May 25, 2006, at 10:01 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > > > For Gnome there's Gnopernicus which at least as of the last time I > > tried it, it worked, but wasn't very efficient. I had real hopes that > > would be the case, but if your looking for a comparison between the > > gui-based Linux solutions and the Mac, the Mac would win hands down. > > I say this because so far KDE isn't accessible to my knowledge, > > Gnopernicus despite being a solution and a good one isn't really > > ready for daily use based on my experience, and I am sure this will > > improve with time. On the other hand, the Mac with VoiceOver is what > > I use daily and for a large number of tasks and its very good. Is it > > perfect? No, but then what adaptive solution is. They all have their > > issues, but you simply have to choose what works best for you. Now if > > your talking about access from the console, well Speakup will win > > everytime because there is truly an accessible solution if there ever > > was one. Speakup reigns supreme from the console providing more > > access than any other adaptive solution both gui or console-based. > > Now these are just my opinions and if you disagree, that's fine, I'm > > not looking to turn this into a pissing contest, just merely making > > some observations based on my experience. > > > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > On May 25, 2006, at 6:52 AM, sean murphy wrote: > > > >> Hi Andrew, > >> > >> The accessibility to Linux varies depending on which application > >> you are > >> using. I know of four applications for the shell environment. > >> > >> Speakup > >> Emacs speak (its own desktop environment) > >> BRLTTY (only used with braille displays) > >> IBM (They have a screen reader which I know very little about) > >> > >> There is a XWindows screen reader, but I don't know much about it > >> and how > >> good it is. If anyone on the list could add some info to this, I > >> would be > >> welcomed. I would like to know how it compares to Windows or MAC. > >> > >> Sean > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Andrew Wagner" <wagner.andrew at gmail.com> > >> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > >> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 11:40 AM > >> Subject: State of accessibility in Linux > >> > >> > >>> Hi all. > >>> I'm pretty new to this list. What is the state of accessibility > >>> for linux > >>> users? I read somewhere that there was at one time a goal of > >>> having a > >>> screen > >>> reader that functioned from boot up to shut down. Is that the case > >>> now? Is > >>> there a linux distribution where the installation is local and > >>> accessible? > >>> What projects need to be done? I have a goal to find/create a linux > >>> distribution to get my (blind) girlfriend off her dependency on > >>> Microsoft. > >>> One of these days... > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Speakup mailing list > >>> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Speakup mailing list > >> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.7.1/347 - Release Date: 5/24/2006 > >