Hey, you know I forgot about Orca. I heard of it ery recently and have been meaning to have a look at it. So thanks for the word on that and its good to know there's another option available for Gnome. Scott On May 25, 2006, at 5:05 PM, Jacob Schmude wrote: > Hi Scott > With regard to Gnome accessibility, don't forget about the other > screen reader, Orca. It has great potential and, at least for me, has > superceded gnopernicus completely. It's scriptable and has > independent cursor moving keys similar to speakup, with the ability > to click the mouse where the cursor is as the windows screen readers > do. Voiceover is still much more efficient at this point, yet Orca is > getting better quite fast. > Just my $0.02 > > > On May 25, 2006, at 10:01 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > >> For Gnome there's Gnopernicus which at least as of the last time I >> tried it, it worked, but wasn't very efficient. I had real hopes that >> would be the case, but if your looking for a comparison between the >> gui-based Linux solutions and the Mac, the Mac would win hands down. >> I say this because so far KDE isn't accessible to my knowledge, >> Gnopernicus despite being a solution and a good one isn't really >> ready for daily use based on my experience, and I am sure this will >> improve with time. On the other hand, the Mac with VoiceOver is what >> I use daily and for a large number of tasks and its very good. Is it >> perfect? No, but then what adaptive solution is. They all have their >> issues, but you simply have to choose what works best for you. Now if >> your talking about access from the console, well Speakup will win >> everytime because there is truly an accessible solution if there ever >> was one. Speakup reigns supreme from the console providing more >> access than any other adaptive solution both gui or console-based. >> Now these are just my opinions and if you disagree, that's fine, I'm >> not looking to turn this into a pissing contest, just merely making >> some observations based on my experience. >> >> >> Scott >> >> >> >> On May 25, 2006, at 6:52 AM, sean murphy wrote: >> >>> Hi Andrew, >>> >>> The accessibility to Linux varies depending on which application >>> you are >>> using. I know of four applications for the shell environment. >>> >>> Speakup >>> Emacs speak (its own desktop environment) >>> BRLTTY (only used with braille displays) >>> IBM (They have a screen reader which I know very little about) >>> >>> There is a XWindows screen reader, but I don't know much about it >>> and how >>> good it is. If anyone on the list could add some info to this, I >>> would be >>> welcomed. I would like to know how it compares to Windows or MAC. >>> >>> Sean >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Andrew Wagner" <wagner.andrew at gmail.com> >>> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> >>> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 11:40 AM >>> Subject: State of accessibility in Linux >>> >>> >>>> Hi all. >>>> I'm pretty new to this list. What is the state of accessibility >>>> for linux >>>> users? I read somewhere that there was at one time a goal of >>>> having a >>>> screen >>>> reader that functioned from boot up to shut down. Is that the case >>>> now? Is >>>> there a linux distribution where the installation is local and >>>> accessible? >>>> What projects need to be done? I have a goal to find/create a linux >>>> distribution to get my (blind) girlfriend off her dependency on >>>> Microsoft. >>>> One of these days... >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Speakup mailing list >>>> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
