Scott, Thanks for your feedback. I have played with the MAC Voice Over Screen reader and is impressive for such a young product. I must install gnome and play with the products available for XWindow. You are correct in saying all OS Screen Readers have their own problems... Sean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Howell" <s.howell@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 3:01 AM Subject: Re: State of accessibility in linux > For Gnome there's Gnopernicus which at least as of the last time I > tried it, it worked, but wasn't very efficient. I had real hopes that > would be the case, but if your looking for a comparison between the > gui-based Linux solutions and the Mac, the Mac would win hands down. > I say this because so far KDE isn't accessible to my knowledge, > Gnopernicus despite being a solution and a good one isn't really > ready for daily use based on my experience, and I am sure this will > improve with time. On the other hand, the Mac with VoiceOver is what > I use daily and for a large number of tasks and its very good. Is it > perfect? No, but then what adaptive solution is. They all have their > issues, but you simply have to choose what works best for you. Now if > your talking about access from the console, well Speakup will win > everytime because there is truly an accessible solution if there ever > was one. Speakup reigns supreme from the console providing more > access than any other adaptive solution both gui or console-based. > Now these are just my opinions and if you disagree, that's fine, I'm > not looking to turn this into a pissing contest, just merely making > some observations based on my experience. > > > Scott > > > > On May 25, 2006, at 6:52 AM, sean murphy wrote: > >> Hi Andrew, >> >> The accessibility to Linux varies depending on which application >> you are >> using. I know of four applications for the shell environment. >> >> Speakup >> Emacs speak (its own desktop environment) >> BRLTTY (only used with braille displays) >> IBM (They have a screen reader which I know very little about) >> >> There is a XWindows screen reader, but I don't know much about it >> and how >> good it is. If anyone on the list could add some info to this, I >> would be >> welcomed. I would like to know how it compares to Windows or MAC. >> >> Sean >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Andrew Wagner" <wagner.andrew at gmail.com> >> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> >> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 11:40 AM >> Subject: State of accessibility in Linux >> >> >>> Hi all. >>> I'm pretty new to this list. What is the state of accessibility >>> for linux >>> users? I read somewhere that there was at one time a goal of having a >>> screen >>> reader that functioned from boot up to shut down. Is that the case >>> now? Is >>> there a linux distribution where the installation is local and >>> accessible? >>> What projects need to be done? I have a goal to find/create a linux >>> distribution to get my (blind) girlfriend off her dependency on >>> Microsoft. >>> One of these days... >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >