You would be much better using the mirror cvs site at fl.linux-speakup.org. For anonymous with drawal it's much faster. If you should ever have any code to submit you can just send in the patches and we'll apply them. Fixes and enhancements are always appreciated as usual. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061