I'm just curious but why does the two major screen readers for windows, not support windows media player? there is a very rich set of features in the player and sadly jaws support a third party player like winamp more then ist does the one built in for windows. do you not find that odd? BlindTech of BlindTechs.Net blindtech at blindtechs.net website: http://blindtechs.net Visit our website where we offer free email, shell accoiunts, shoutcast radio service, online games and more! Powered by Unix not Microsoft On Apr 2, 2006, at 10:23 AM, Travis Siegel wrote: > Actually, carbon apps do work with vo, just not nearly as well as > cocoa apps do. Cocoa has a lot more built-in compatibility with vo > than carbon apps do, but even carbon apps have *soome* compatibility > with vo, and although it's certainly not the simplest task to do on > the mac, ITunes *can* be made to work. I don't use it nearly as much > as others do, but when I do use it, I have no problem making it do > what I want. But then again, I use quicktime, audio hijack, real > player, and a couple other apps to pretty much replace the > functionality of ITunes, so for me it's not a big deal that it > doesn't work very well with voiceover. However, there's folks on the > list that use scripts and other things to make ITunes work > considerably than it does out of the box. So, don't dismiss out of > hand things that don't work out of the box, because generally there's > a work around. Not always, but generally. And of course you won't > know that unless you get involved. > On Apr 2, 2006, at 5:30 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: RIPEMD160 >> >> I didn't get a lot of time to really get down and use Voice Over >> heavily >> but I did give Itunes a try. Forget it! Itunes was quieter than a >> church mouse! I understand applications have to be built in Coco >> framework in order for Voice Over to work. Itunes and the ports of >> Microsoft Office are in Carbon; I was told that Carbon apps just flat >> don't work in Voice Over. >> >> On Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 01:39:04PM -0500, Travis Siegel wrote: >>> What are you talking about? >>> I use the mac every day. Email, file manipulation, cd/dvd playing, >>> cd/ >>> dvd creating, online chatting, web browsing, word processing, and to >>> some degree, even programming on the mac are completely 100% >>> accessible. There's folks using it for sound editing, and podcast >>> creation as well. If there's stuff you can't do on the mac, there's >>> probably a third-party solution out there somewhere to do it. >>> Admittedly, some of the programs aren't 100% accessible, but there's >>> always workarounds. The shell prompt (they call it terminal) works, >>> though not automatically, but if that's the worst I have to worry >>> about with a machine, then I'd say it's a pretty good machine. >>> Also, the apple provided dvd player won't let you get to the video >>> described sound tracks on your dvd by yourself, but the softcon DVD >>> player does (http://softcon.com/mac). and there's other developers >>> working on things like producing audio mp3 files from text using the >>> apple voices, and various other little things to make macs easier/ >>> better to use. I'd suggest going into your local apple store, >>> sitting down with a mac, and trying it before insisting it's not >>> usable. I think you might be surprised at how much you can do >>> with it. >> >> >> - -- >> HolmesGrown Solutions >> The best solutions for the best price! >> http://ld.net/?holmesgrown >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.2.7 (GNU/Linux) >> >> iD8DBQFEL5mgWSjv55S0LfERA3FfAJ0R6Ue8TWie8EDeidoFdBORXsZJ+QCfahU+ >> zwlPhrhiMU9DXWi6fubcNLU= >> =Njcl >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup at braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup