Actually, carbon apps do work with vo, just not nearly as well as cocoa apps do. Cocoa has a lot more built-in compatibility with vo than carbon apps do, but even carbon apps have *soome* compatibility with vo, and although it's certainly not the simplest task to do on the mac, ITunes *can* be made to work. I don't use it nearly as much as others do, but when I do use it, I have no problem making it do what I want. But then again, I use quicktime, audio hijack, real player, and a couple other apps to pretty much replace the functionality of ITunes, so for me it's not a big deal that it doesn't work very well with voiceover. However, there's folks on the list that use scripts and other things to make ITunes work considerably than it does out of the box. So, don't dismiss out of hand things that don't work out of the box, because generally there's a work around. Not always, but generally. And of course you won't know that unless you get involved. On Apr 2, 2006, at 5:30 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > I didn't get a lot of time to really get down and use Voice Over > heavily > but I did give Itunes a try. Forget it! Itunes was quieter than a > church mouse! I understand applications have to be built in Coco > framework in order for Voice Over to work. Itunes and the ports of > Microsoft Office are in Carbon; I was told that Carbon apps just flat > don't work in Voice Over. > > On Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 01:39:04PM -0500, Travis Siegel wrote: >> What are you talking about? >> I use the mac every day. Email, file manipulation, cd/dvd playing, >> cd/ >> dvd creating, online chatting, web browsing, word processing, and to >> some degree, even programming on the mac are completely 100% >> accessible. There's folks using it for sound editing, and podcast >> creation as well. If there's stuff you can't do on the mac, there's >> probably a third-party solution out there somewhere to do it. >> Admittedly, some of the programs aren't 100% accessible, but there's >> always workarounds. The shell prompt (they call it terminal) works, >> though not automatically, but if that's the worst I have to worry >> about with a machine, then I'd say it's a pretty good machine. >> Also, the apple provided dvd player won't let you get to the video >> described sound tracks on your dvd by yourself, but the softcon DVD >> player does (http://softcon.com/mac). and there's other developers >> working on things like producing audio mp3 files from text using the >> apple voices, and various other little things to make macs easier/ >> better to use. I'd suggest going into your local apple store, >> sitting down with a mac, and trying it before insisting it's not >> usable. I think you might be surprised at how much you can do >> with it. > > > - -- > HolmesGrown Solutions > The best solutions for the best price! > http://ld.net/?holmesgrown > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.7 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFEL5mgWSjv55S0LfERA3FfAJ0R6Ue8TWie8EDeidoFdBORXsZJ+QCfahU+ > zwlPhrhiMU9DXWi6fubcNLU= > =Njcl > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >
