What are you talking about? I use the mac every day. Email, file manipulation, cd/dvd playing, cd/ dvd creating, online chatting, web browsing, word processing, and to some degree, even programming on the mac are completely 100% accessible. There's folks using it for sound editing, and podcast creation as well. If there's stuff you can't do on the mac, there's probably a third-party solution out there somewhere to do it. Admittedly, some of the programs aren't 100% accessible, but there's always workarounds. The shell prompt (they call it terminal) works, though not automatically, but if that's the worst I have to worry about with a machine, then I'd say it's a pretty good machine. Also, the apple provided dvd player won't let you get to the video described sound tracks on your dvd by yourself, but the softcon DVD player does (http://softcon.com/mac). and there's other developers working on things like producing audio mp3 files from text using the apple voices, and various other little things to make macs easier/ better to use. I'd suggest going into your local apple store, sitting down with a mac, and trying it before insisting it's not usable. I think you might be surprised at how much you can do with it. On Mar 30, 2006, at 11:46 AM, Ann K. Parsons wrote: > Hi all, > > Interesting point of view. Not sure it's accurate, but definitely > interesting. <smiling> It may even work, if, I say if, the > mainstream market can be persuaded that it is just what is needed. > Somebody in this discussion used the illustration of the typewriter. > Good choice, why, because that device was, in the 1880s designed > specifically *for* a blind person so that person could write more > effectively. > > You may want to be careful when talking about Apple's screen reader. > I have heard that it is good, but it doesn't give sull access yet. > Perhaps there have been improvements? > > Ann P. > > -- > Ann K. Parsons > email: akp at eznet.net > WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp > Skype: Putertutor > "All that is gold does not glitter. > Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >