The latest version of speakup is cvs which can be had by going to the speakup site and getting readme.checkout and checkout which is a script to get speakup from cvs and patch your kernel with it. Come to think of it Bill Acker may have fairly recent rpms available as well. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061