Interesting that even you experienced users have editing troubles. I think the next edit to lilo.conf then will be a way to let me log in with a terminal. My trusty old Toshiba T1200 laptop with sounding board still works fine with como and a variety of screen readers, and I never had trouble using Vi or pico that way. I'm really hoping to be able to program using Speakup but I need an editor that I don't have to think about. -- Debee