Hi Debee. Well, as Kirk has said in earlier posts, you should upgrade to a new kernel and the cvs version of Speakup, which is about ready to become Speakup 2.0, the production version. The cursor tracking does indeed work well for editing under the cvs version of Speakup, and it doesn't really matter which editor you use. I use one called MicroEmacs, which is a public domain editor. If you really want the source, you can google for it, but I've put a tar ball up on bumpy in the goodies directory, which contains a pre-compiled binary. It gives you most of the editing features of gnu/emacs, but doesn't include the kitchen sink. This means you don't get html mode, no mail reader, no news reader, no calendar, etc. Just a plain vanilla editor that only uses 2 meg of disk space, instead of the 27 plus meg that gnu/emacs uses. If you decide to try it, the tar ball is called uemacs.tar.gz. download it, become root, and change to the slash (/) directory. Untar uemacs.tar.gz like so: tar xzf /home/mydir/uemacs.tar.gz The files will be put in /usr/local/bin/uemacs. Make sure it is in your path. Then type memacs file-name to run the editor. There is a .emacsrc file in the /usr/local/bin/uemacs directory that you can customize. The menu window with the function key descriptions can be toggled on and off with the f5 function key, and you enter the help system with f6 and exit with f10. I should really put the source up there as well, since it is in the public domain. The beauty of this editor is that I've had it on just about every computer system I've ever worked on. DOS, a Vax running vms, an at&t 7300 running system v., a Macintosh, Windows 9.x, dec ultrix systems, and now linux. Suffice it to say, that MicroEmacs is a very small and portable editor. Gene