Sorry folks I'm using two different matchines to read and respond to mail. I have a very borken Exim on the problem box so this is getting fun. I did as Cheryl suggested and forgot to mention that apt-get -f install did the following. First when I ran apt-get install exim4 which was the offending pkg, I got You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies: at: Depends: mail-transport-agent exim4: Depends: exim4-base (>= 4.34) but it is not going to be installed Depends: exim4-daemon-light but it is not going to be installed or exim4-daemon-heavy but it is not going to be installed or exim4-daemon-custom but it is not installable E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution when I run apt-get -f install no package name Correcting dependencies... Done The following extra packages will be installed: exim4 exim4-base exim4-config exim4-daemon-light Suggested packages: eximon4 exim4-doc-html exim4-doc-info The following NEW packages will be installed: exim4 exim4-base exim4-config exim4-daemon-light 0 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 0 to remove and 278 not upgraded. Need to get 0B/1303kB of archives. After unpacking 2814kB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y Preconfiguring packages ... dpkg: syntax error: unknown group `Debian-exim' in statusoverride file E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) So there ya go and this is where I'm stuck. I am sure there's a fix here, but I'm not seeing it. tnx and keep those suggestions coming, I am sure one will fix this mess.<grin> then I'll stop breaking stuff.hahah Scott