Kenny, Thanks, actually I did try taht and I still get the same error. I stupidly thought that switching to exim4 would resolve a problem I was having, but after I realized that this wasn't the trick I tried going back to Exim 3.3.6. No problem, but then that is when I realized things had gone baddly wrong. I tried up, I tried using apt-get -f install per the suggestion of apt, but this didn't do me any good either. I suspect the only way to rid myself of this problem is to either find the place where this debian-exim group is referenced and get rid of it, or I'll have to re-install the entire distro. I see little to get out of this jam. I dug about in the apt howto and found a few things I tried, but again no joy. This is a mightly hosed situation. I hate to have to trash this and start over, but I haven't any idea how to get out of this as dpkg will not get over this problem. tnx Scott