You may be absolutely correct I don't know. Have you sifted through the linux-kernel archives for reports about other validated failures? Have you asked for help on the linux-kernel mailing list? Have you gone through the configuration process choice by choice to make sure you've bypassed any problem with configuration changes which are either not used anymore or moved to places which depend on options you didn't select? It is quite possible you found a bug but a bug which isn't identified isn't useful to anyone. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061