Yes, there is a .journal file in the / directory. Interesting thing though; I did a 'ls -la' to show dot files and the .journal on my box shows a last mod date of 3 Mar 2003 and I've been using my machine all along here so not sure what that really means. I figured it would have a recent time stamp. Well, I now see that on one of my other linux machines here that a .journal file does *NOT* exist and when I do the mount command, it does indeed show that it is an ext3 file system so my previous paragraph must be moot now. <hmmm> wonder what will happen if I delete the .journal on this machine? It's 33 megs I can get back:) -- HolmesGrown Solutions The best solutions for the best price! http://ld.net/?holmesgrown