I have seen the same results in certain circumstances which I never am able to identify either. I can usually get 80 by 50 by just setting vga=extended however. It may be that although the video card can handle a higher resolution the necessary video ram has not been installed on the card. Try extended and see what you get. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061