If you make changes to speakup or any of our projects you can take a diff -urN and pass it to me through email. If you make loads of changes on a continuous basis and I see that they are good and reflective I will give you cvs writing capabilities. You might also want to post your changes here to the list. I will not pick up patches which are just sent to the list however in case I miss them. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061