On the contrary, Gnopernicus will simply prove how excellent CLI tools already are. Darrell Shandrow writes: > From: "Darrell Shandrow" <nu7i at azboss.net> > > Hi Steve and all, > > Linux won't be a good modern desktop for most blind users until Gnopernicus > gets further along and the graphical desktops and most applications are > accessible. I'm not saying anything about liking the current state of > affairs; I'm just being realistic. > > > > Darrell Shandrow - Shandrow Communications! > Technology consultant/instructor, network/systems administrator! > A+, CCNA, Network+! > Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i > All the best to coalition forces carrying out Operation Iraqi Freedom! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Holmes" <steve at holmesgrown.com> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 5:23 AM > Subject: Re: Actiontech router? > > > > That's an interesting option if the serial port is available. I do > > happen to have a windows partition already set up here so I can get > > into windows-only interfaces "if I have to," but if the originator of > > this thread does not have windows available to him already, he is > > stuck with the issues that Janina pointed out here previously. When > > it comes to routers, I much prefer to roll my own on a linux box. I > > realize many routers come pretty cheap these days but an old '486 does > > the job pretty well. > > > > In the mean time, people shouldn't be *FORCED* to use windows to get a > > job done. It just ain't right! Like what was said earlier if > > somebody wants to do winblows, let 'm have at it. But for me, I'll > > only use it when it is impossible to do otherwise. > > > > A lot of these problems lately have to do with javascript. Text > > browsers are well behind the times and lack javascript support. I'll > > bet that if a good text browser would implement javascript support, a > > lot of these issues would go away. Yes, I feel much javascript is > > unnecessary but I can see where some of it is quite useful for > > specialized navigation needs like treeviews. I have a web based tool > > for managing postgres databases. Started out looking pretty good in > > lynx but I ran into some java stuff that threw it down on its face. > > Worked good in internet exploder but... I'm thinking of ripping out > > the javascript stuff but they implement things like tree views and the > > like and conventional HTML does not support tree views. So one > > example of where javascript is here to stay. > > > > On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 12:27:27PM +0100, Andrew Hodgson wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Unfortunately this brings us on to the topic of VI web navigation with > > > Linux, not one of the strong points. When you presented a sighted > > > person using Linux with this problem, in most cases they would load up > > > their desktop and launch Mozilla. If there is no telnet interface > > > available on the router, (i.e, some cheaper routers), then the only > > > way to configure it is through a Javascript browser, be that on your > > > own machine or through a friend who has Windows. Note also if the > > > router does not have a telnet interface, it may have a console > > > interface that will hook up to the com port on the computer. > > > > > > Andrew. > > > -- > > > Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. > > > Email: Andrew at hodgsonfamily.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > -- > > Make sure your E-mail can be read by everyone! > > http://www.betips.net/etc/evilmail.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
