Hi Steve and all, Linux won't be a good modern desktop for most blind users until Gnopernicus gets further along and the graphical desktops and most applications are accessible. I'm not saying anything about liking the current state of affairs; I'm just being realistic. Darrell Shandrow - Shandrow Communications! Technology consultant/instructor, network/systems administrator! A+, CCNA, Network+! Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i All the best to coalition forces carrying out Operation Iraqi Freedom! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Holmes" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 5:23 AM Subject: Re: Actiontech router? > That's an interesting option if the serial port is available. I do > happen to have a windows partition already set up here so I can get > into windows-only interfaces "if I have to," but if the originator of > this thread does not have windows available to him already, he is > stuck with the issues that Janina pointed out here previously. When > it comes to routers, I much prefer to roll my own on a linux box. I > realize many routers come pretty cheap these days but an old '486 does > the job pretty well. > > In the mean time, people shouldn't be *FORCED* to use windows to get a > job done. It just ain't right! Like what was said earlier if > somebody wants to do winblows, let 'm have at it. But for me, I'll > only use it when it is impossible to do otherwise. > > A lot of these problems lately have to do with javascript. Text > browsers are well behind the times and lack javascript support. I'll > bet that if a good text browser would implement javascript support, a > lot of these issues would go away. Yes, I feel much javascript is > unnecessary but I can see where some of it is quite useful for > specialized navigation needs like treeviews. I have a web based tool > for managing postgres databases. Started out looking pretty good in > lynx but I ran into some java stuff that threw it down on its face. > Worked good in internet exploder but... I'm thinking of ripping out > the javascript stuff but they implement things like tree views and the > like and conventional HTML does not support tree views. So one > example of where javascript is here to stay. > > On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 12:27:27PM +0100, Andrew Hodgson wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Unfortunately this brings us on to the topic of VI web navigation with > > Linux, not one of the strong points. When you presented a sighted > > person using Linux with this problem, in most cases they would load up > > their desktop and launch Mozilla. If there is no telnet interface > > available on the router, (i.e, some cheaper routers), then the only > > way to configure it is through a Javascript browser, be that on your > > own machine or through a friend who has Windows. Note also if the > > router does not have a telnet interface, it may have a console > > interface that will hook up to the com port on the computer. > > > > Andrew. > > -- > > Andrew Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. > > Email: Andrew at hodgsonfamily.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > Make sure your E-mail can be read by everyone! > http://www.betips.net/etc/evilmail.html > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
