Ok, I may have found the rpoblem. I have both an /usr/local/src/sfr and a /usr/local/bin/sfr. they are both alike, except that one has port 4074 and the other has 2074 as I wanted to use the echo server. I'm not sure how both of them would have gotten running though. Now obviously, I can get rid of one of these, but how do I get rid of this extra process that appears to be running that i can't find? Thanks.