Hi all, <smile> Hey, Danley, you see this? You want to comment? I'm sort of in the same boat, Cheryl. I can access them via Windows, and I did manage to sign up, but I had to have sighted help to do it. The word on the unpack tool is that if you download the public domain stuff, you don't have to have the unpack tool. However, if you do sign up, then you have to use the unpack tool in order to download anything under copyright. Then, you have to use the VR reader to read it, or so they say. It took them over four weeks to get my stuff approved. I was on their beta list, and I looked at their site, but my computer was down during most of the testing. I have expressed my dissatisfaction with their web site. They are looking for a Linux programmer to enable them to put the stuff into a format readable by Linux. Because of some recent developments in other areas of my life, I'm not so sure I want to sign up with them now. They make it deliberately difficult to sign up. They put deliberate road blocks in the way of anyone trying to access their site, even in Windows the site is so damned busy I can hardly navigate it. It's too busy!! There are sometimes over thirty links on a page! That's too many links, too damned many links and there's very little text except for the license agreement which goes on for thirty screens or more! They expect people to read this and understand it; thirty screens full, plus agree buttons placed strategically through the whole bless document to be sure you've read it? Give me a break! If I say I've read it, then I've read it. I don't need to check every page like a second grader to prove it! They're going by the same mentality as most Windows developers do. Treat your customers like idiots because they are. <grrrrr> "Do you want to find this file now?" Yes, God bless it, when else would I want the file, Tuesday, next year, July 16th? <grrrrr> No, Cheryl, it is not accessible now. Whether it will be or not depends on people like Janina. I can't make any headway at all. I'm just a peon! If it was me, I'd scrap that whole web tree and start over with something a bit simpler, and a lot more elegant! Me, I go for simplicity and clean lines, like a Japanese vase with three flowers in it, not a huge tub of piones a foot across! Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp at eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT