Hi, I used vi because I tried to use a DOS program called "vi". The
problem was, ASAP couldn't track the cursor. From using Linux the last
few months, I think you're right about it beeing a DOS version of elvis.
At the time, all I had was a .exe file and my boss didn't know anything
more than vi commands. He used it for all his editing, and it took up
less space on a DOS floppy, so he wanted to use it as the editor.
Kenny
On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 12:48:44PM -0400, Janina Sajka
wrote:
> Wait a minute, it's not fair to compare asap using vi with the access we
> now have with speakup.
>
> Unless you were using elvis, a vi port for DOS, the only way you could use
> any unix text editor with asap was to log onto a unix server via telnet or
> dialup connection. That meant terminal emmulation. In other words, there
> were several layers separating you and asap from the text editor. This is
> not the case today, when speakup is running directly on your own linux
> machine.
>
> Speakup and asap are alike in their screen review functions, but the
> analogies should really stop right there.
>
>
> On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, Kenny Hitt wrote:
>
> > Hi, I agree. The fact I used ASAP for years made it quicker for me.
> > Believe it or not, I am using vi for editing. I tried it in DOS or as a
> > console ap in Windows, but never could use it because screen readers
> > couldn't track the cursor.
> >
> > Kenny
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 07:50:14PM +1000, Shaun Oliver wrote:
> > > I'd go on e step forther and suggest that it might to some extent be the
> > > operator of the machine as well.
> > > I mean by this that it is possible that they may not be properly aquainted
> > > with speakup and it's functions.
> > > it only took me a week to grasp the basics but for others it might take
> > > just that little bit longer.
> > > Do you think that this could have a baring on the oppinions of others
> > > relating to text editing?
> > >
> > >
> > > shaun..
> > >
> > > FEAR: Fear attracts the fearful, the strong, the weak, the innocent, the
> > > corrupt
> > > . FEAR: Fear is my alli.
> > >
> > > On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, Charles Hallenbeck wrote:
> > >
> > > > I agree 1000%, Scott - you expressed my own thoughts exactly.
> > > >
> > > > This business about text editing is interesting - it is not speakup that
> > > > creates any limitations - it is the various apps themselves, and speakup
> > > > at least lets you get right up close and personal with all the apps,
> > > > including their good points as well as their limitations.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Scott Howell wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Ay, I have to say that the only problem Speakup has ever has is it doesn't
> > > > > type for me thus it doesn't fix all the spelling errors. Seriously though,
> > > > > I find Speakup to be one incredible piece of work. Its made such a
> > > > > difference in my life. Not to sound hokie or anything, but Speakup and
> > > > > Linux have really brought my interest in computers far beyond my wildest
> > > > > dreams. Trapped inmicroslop hell limited me to what I could do and
> > > > > learn. SOme may argue, but I can assure you that there's little windows
> > > > > has ever offered and certainly has never made any task as simple as Linux
> > > > > and Speakup. Kirk and those who have contributed to the development of
> > > > > Speakup deserve a big thank you. I take every opportunity to tell folks
> > > > > about Speakup and the wonderful things the folks involved have done.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Visit me at http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh
> > > > The Moon is Waxing Crescent (8% of Full)
> > > >
> > > >
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