Wait a minute, it's not fair to compare asap using vi with the access we now have with speakup. Unless you were using elvis, a vi port for DOS, the only way you could use any unix text editor with asap was to log onto a unix server via telnet or dialup connection. That meant terminal emmulation. In other words, there were several layers separating you and asap from the text editor. This is not the case today, when speakup is running directly on your own linux machine. Speakup and asap are alike in their screen review functions, but the analogies should really stop right there. On Wed, 22 Aug 2001, Kenny Hitt wrote: > Hi, I agree. The fact I used ASAP for years made it quicker for me. > Believe it or not, I am using vi for editing. I tried it in DOS or as a > console ap in Windows, but never could use it because screen readers > couldn't track the cursor. > > Kenny > > On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 07:50:14PM +1000, Shaun Oliver wrote: > > I'd go on e step forther and suggest that it might to some extent be the > > operator of the machine as well. > > I mean by this that it is possible that they may not be properly aquainted > > with speakup and it's functions. > > it only took me a week to grasp the basics but for others it might take > > just that little bit longer. > > Do you think that this could have a baring on the oppinions of others > > relating to text editing? > > > > > > shaun.. > > > > FEAR: Fear attracts the fearful, the strong, the weak, the innocent, the > > corrupt > > . FEAR: Fear is my alli. > > > > On Tue, 21 Aug 2001, Charles Hallenbeck wrote: > > > > > I agree 1000%, Scott - you expressed my own thoughts exactly. > > > > > > This business about text editing is interesting - it is not speakup that > > > creates any limitations - it is the various apps themselves, and speakup > > > at least lets you get right up close and personal with all the apps, > > > including their good points as well as their limitations. > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Scott Howell wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Ay, I have to say that the only problem Speakup has ever has is it doesn't > > > > type for me thus it doesn't fix all the spelling errors. Seriously though, > > > > I find Speakup to be one incredible piece of work. Its made such a > > > > difference in my life. Not to sound hokie or anything, but Speakup and > > > > Linux have really brought my interest in computers far beyond my wildest > > > > dreams. Trapped inmicroslop hell limited me to what I could do and > > > > learn. SOme may argue, but I can assure you that there's little windows > > > > has ever offered and certainly has never made any task as simple as Linux > > > > and Speakup. Kirk and those who have contributed to the development of > > > > Speakup deserve a big thank you. I take every opportunity to tell folks > > > > about Speakup and the wonderful things the folks involved have done. > > > > > > > > > Visit me at http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh > > > The Moon is Waxing Crescent (8% of Full) > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp Learn how to make accessible software at http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp
