Yeah, and lame is quite a bit faster than bladeenc, I think. Certainly seems to be, far as I can tell, but I just installed lame today. Like it quite a lot though. Should be interesting to see what comes of this new thing though. ... -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV | And if the ground yawned, Email: davros at ycardz.com | I'd step to the side and say, Phone: (972) 276-6360 | "Hey ground! I'm nobody's lunch!" Voice mail: (877) 791-5298 | --Eddie From Ohio