Hi Geoff - After seeing your earlier note about piping audio streams with lame, I decided to give that program a whirl. I have been using bladeenc until now. I noticed after compiling and installing the August 6 beta release that it now supports encoding and decoding the ogg vorbis format as well as mp3. I am curious - is that a new feature? Have you used it? How does it work? I have not been too happy with bladeenc as an mp3 encoder because it requires a minimum of 32 kilobits sampling rate inputs, and the resulting mp3 file loses something in the translation. That is, if you only have 8k or 11.025 or 16k to start with, it seems wasteful to first artificially inflate the sampling rate to 32k in order to compress it with bladeenc, and lots of noise creeps into the signal along the way - probably with sox resampling. I am hopeful that lame can do a better job, and am excited to see ogg vorbis support too. Chuck. My web site is http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh Keep grandma off the streets -- legalize bingo.