Hi Brent: hahaha. No, no debian packages for vorbis yet, it's way way too new yet. However, some tools like oggenc can be downloaded as precompiled binaries. You know, you could solve your recording problem pretty easily by using arecord (if you run alsa which I think you do). Arecord is neat because it can record to standard output. This is cool because you can then pass it to something else that can use standard input, such as an MP3 or vorbis encoder. A command example for lame to encode MP3 for example might be: arecord |lame - recording.mp3 Another example using the oggenc program now available for vorbis: arecord |oggenc - -o output.ogg Note that I've seen instances of arecord dropping out when there's other HD activity. Whether piping to standard output would suffer similarly, I do not know. I would be interested if there are other wav recorders that will record to standard output. I really dig this ability to pipe audio. I like to encode stuff in formats like MP3, but I'm impatient. I want to encode at the lowest bitrate I can get away with that still sounds good. I don't want to encode the entire file before I decide I don't like that particular rate, so I pipe it to mpg123 and listen to some of it to see what I think. Note that this breaks up over a certain bitrate, depending on your processor power. Here's an example: lame -hb 160 input.wav - |mpg123 - One other comment on piping. The ultimate application for saving space as Brent alluded to is ripping tracks from CD. Cdparanoia will, you guessed it, rip to standard output. So you can use a command like this: cdparanoia -qz 1 - |lame -hb 160 - track1.mp3 This will encode track 1 on the CD to track1.mp3 using high quality mode and a bitrate of 160kbps. Geoff. -- Geoff Shang <gshang10 at scu.edu.au> ICQ number 43634701