Yes, it is a "free" market, but there is "no free money" to make change as needed... 2012/8/23 Sven-Thorsten Dietrich <sven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > Can you use a product other than NVidia? > > It's a free market: > > Use what works, reject what doesn't. > > Sven-Thorsten Dietrich > 415 4804180 > > On Aug 23, 2012, at 1:47, Javier Sanz <jsanza@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I can understand that there are many problems, nvidia drivers, rt >> kernel, and no collaboration between those involved, thereby >> ultimately harms the opensource community, etc., And in my case, the >> main thing is that I have no knowledge to fix them, or help to be >> corrected, for now all I can ask for help and hope someone help me. >> >> For example, how I can see where the problem occurs? because there is >> no trace in the files of nvidia, the dmesg, nowhere ... >> how can i get a document to help people to find theses problems? which >> files affected, boots modes, etc ... show to people that there are a >> way to damm nvidia drivers ... >> >> You say that there is a message, >> [6.993495] Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint >> >> how do you get it ? have you sent this information any nvidia forums? >> no answer? how can we fix it ? >> >> Yesterday, testing with kernel 3.4.9-rt17 with nvidia 304.37 drivers >> ... nvidia gt 240 ... all blocked .. i am at same point ... >> >> So, what is the next step? mails? forums? >> >> What do you suggest? >> >> TX >> >> >> 2012/8/18 David L. Craig <dlc.usa@xxxxxxxxx>: >>> On 12Aug18:1152+0200, Javier Sanz wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, i got the same problem, black screen, no mouse, no keyboard ... >>>> i didnt change any config file from X or nvidia ... only rt patch >>>> applied ... :( >>>> I'll try with nvidia 304.37 ... no patch required ? ... i'll test ... >>>> >>>> thank you >>> >>> Just to be sure you didn't misunderstand the situation, >>> I do not have any rt kernel working with nvidia >>> except the Linux Mint Debian XFCE 13 distribution. >>> Debian considers this an important bug but nVidia's >>> assessment is unknown to date. >>> >>> Perhaps another rt-kernel lister can offer a quality >>> suggestion about a likely fruitful approach to finding >>> people able and willing to dig into what the kern.log >>> shows is going on and direct further resolution >>> activities. Such people are probably rt-kernel and/or >>> nVidia developers. I could probably do it myself after >>> three months of nothing but working on it (including >>> in my sleep ;-) ). I'd hazard a guess the following >>> has a lot to do with the problem: >>> >>> [ 6.993495] Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint >>> >>> I don't know what the long-term outlook for nVidia market >>> share in the FLOSS area is. I saw hardware acceleration >>> is apparently required for GNOME Unity. That's good for >>> the hardware vendors, I suppose, but problematic for folks >>> who take the L in FLOSS very seriously. I think we all >>> wish the vendors would choose to make these problems go >>> away by distributing their source. As RMS says, they >>> won't if they don't have to, so we shouldn't be pragmatic, >>> just say no thank you. Can I live without FlightGear? >>> Why should I have to, nVidia (BTW, I was given your >>> hardware--I wouldn't buy it)? If the gamers really are >>> becoming Windows 8 refugees, I guess there's hope for the >>> future. But if the governments start locking up systems >>> programming, doling out practioner licenses, and making >>> libre software illegal, then not. >>> >>> But to hopefully get back on topic, I have the impression >>> I NEED the rt kernel because FG frame updates get >>> behind without it. I've heard JACK audio works well >>> enough without rt these days (but I don't believe it >>> yet--soon enough I will be able to prove it to myself, >>> unless I get a job). >>> -- >>> May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly! >>> >>> Dave_Craig______________________________________________ >>> "So the universe is not quite as you thought it was. >>> You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then. >>> Because you certainly can't rearrange the universe." >>> __--from_Nightfall_by_Asimov/Silverberg_________________ >> -- >> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-rt-users" in >> the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-rt-users" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
