Can you use a product other than NVidia? It's a free market: Use what works, reject what doesn't. Sven-Thorsten Dietrich 415 4804180 On Aug 23, 2012, at 1:47, Javier Sanz <jsanza@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hello, > > I can understand that there are many problems, nvidia drivers, rt > kernel, and no collaboration between those involved, thereby > ultimately harms the opensource community, etc., And in my case, the > main thing is that I have no knowledge to fix them, or help to be > corrected, for now all I can ask for help and hope someone help me. > > For example, how I can see where the problem occurs? because there is > no trace in the files of nvidia, the dmesg, nowhere ... > how can i get a document to help people to find theses problems? which > files affected, boots modes, etc ... show to people that there are a > way to damm nvidia drivers ... > > You say that there is a message, > [6.993495] Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint > > how do you get it ? have you sent this information any nvidia forums? > no answer? how can we fix it ? > > Yesterday, testing with kernel 3.4.9-rt17 with nvidia 304.37 drivers > ... nvidia gt 240 ... all blocked .. i am at same point ... > > So, what is the next step? mails? forums? > > What do you suggest? > > TX > > > 2012/8/18 David L. Craig <dlc.usa@xxxxxxxxx>: >> On 12Aug18:1152+0200, Javier Sanz wrote: >> >>> Yes, i got the same problem, black screen, no mouse, no keyboard ... >>> i didnt change any config file from X or nvidia ... only rt patch >>> applied ... :( >>> I'll try with nvidia 304.37 ... no patch required ? ... i'll test ... >>> >>> thank you >> >> Just to be sure you didn't misunderstand the situation, >> I do not have any rt kernel working with nvidia >> except the Linux Mint Debian XFCE 13 distribution. >> Debian considers this an important bug but nVidia's >> assessment is unknown to date. >> >> Perhaps another rt-kernel lister can offer a quality >> suggestion about a likely fruitful approach to finding >> people able and willing to dig into what the kern.log >> shows is going on and direct further resolution >> activities. Such people are probably rt-kernel and/or >> nVidia developers. I could probably do it myself after >> three months of nothing but working on it (including >> in my sleep ;-) ). I'd hazard a guess the following >> has a lot to do with the problem: >> >> [ 6.993495] Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint >> >> I don't know what the long-term outlook for nVidia market >> share in the FLOSS area is. I saw hardware acceleration >> is apparently required for GNOME Unity. That's good for >> the hardware vendors, I suppose, but problematic for folks >> who take the L in FLOSS very seriously. I think we all >> wish the vendors would choose to make these problems go >> away by distributing their source. As RMS says, they >> won't if they don't have to, so we shouldn't be pragmatic, >> just say no thank you. Can I live without FlightGear? >> Why should I have to, nVidia (BTW, I was given your >> hardware--I wouldn't buy it)? If the gamers really are >> becoming Windows 8 refugees, I guess there's hope for the >> future. But if the governments start locking up systems >> programming, doling out practioner licenses, and making >> libre software illegal, then not. >> >> But to hopefully get back on topic, I have the impression >> I NEED the rt kernel because FG frame updates get >> behind without it. I've heard JACK audio works well >> enough without rt these days (but I don't believe it >> yet--soon enough I will be able to prove it to myself, >> unless I get a job). >> -- >> May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly! >> >> Dave_Craig______________________________________________ >> "So the universe is not quite as you thought it was. >> You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then. >> Because you certainly can't rearrange the universe." >> __--from_Nightfall_by_Asimov/Silverberg_________________ > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-rt-users" in > the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-rt-users" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html