Re: 2018 UCX and RDMA Annual Developers Meeting

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On 11/26/2018 2:15 PM, Gilad Shainer wrote:
> On 11/26/2018 6:56 AM, Doug Ledford wrote:
>> On 11/22/2018 11:25 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>> It might help to explain what UCF is any why it pretends to be
>>> relevant for Linux.  Especially with such a short notice..
>>
>> Indeed.  And why all of this has been done behind closed doors with only just
>> this last minute announcement.  Or what this OpenRDMA group is and why
>> someone thinks it needs/deserves to exist?
> 
> UCX is an open source project that exist for several years now, and multiple companies and organizations participate in the development of it. In order to help drive UCX an official consortium was set for it. Something common in the industry. 
> 
> The group though it will be useful to help the RDMA community and applications developers, as part of the consortium activities, as nothing exist out there for this. For example improving the man pages, provide support for application developers etc. This can only help the RDMA community. And as such UCF thought it will be useful to have some talks at the annual UCX consortium. We are sorry that we missed sending this info the this mailing list, but it is better later than never.

The lateness here is a big part of the issue.  But also the fact that I
reviewed the list of topics on day 3 of the proposed agenda, and many of
these are topics that, if I understand their content properly, should
have been brought up at the LPC RDMA mini-conf just two weeks ago, not
in an unannounced meeting to be held in just two weeks time from now.

> There is no fragmentations here. UCX is not new and demonstrates  nice adoption and usage. The RDMA work is only going to help the RDMA community. We are not aware of any other group that does it today. 
> 
> 
>> I'll be frank, this looks like a pretty concerted effort to intentionally fragment
>> things in this community even further than they already are.  Intentional
>> running off to play in a walled garden instead of working upstream.
>>
>> --
>> Doug Ledford <dledford@xxxxxxxxxx>
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> 
> Regards, 
> Gilad Shainer
> Mellanox Technologies 
> 
> 
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