On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 10:22:48AM -0400, James Bottomley wrote: > On Thu, 2024-07-25 at 17:18 +0300, Leon Romanovsky wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 02:29:36PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 04:20:35PM +0300, Leon Romanovsky wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 03:02:13PM +0200, Ricardo Ribalda Delgado > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > As a user, and as an open source Distro developer I have a > > > > > small hint. But you could also ask users what they think about > > > > > not being able to use their notebook's cameras. The last time > > > > > that I could not use some basic hardware from a notebook with > > > > > Linux was 20 years ago. > > > > > > > Lucky you, I still have consumer hardware (speaker) that doesn't > > > > work with Linux, and even now, there is basic hardware in my > > > > current laptop (HP docking station) that doesn't work reliably in > > > > Linux. > > > > > > FWIW for most audio issues (especially built in stuff) with laptops > > > if you report it upstream it'll generally be relatively easy to > > > quirk. Unfortunately it's idiomatic for ACPI systems to quirk off > > > DMI information for almost everything which means a constant stream > > > of per system quirks for subsystems like audio. > > > > It is Jabra USB speaker. One day, I will have time to debug it :). > > Those actually do work with Linux. It's the speakers Plumbers has > provided to BoF/Hack sessions that needed remote attendees. There was > a pulseaudio issue a while ago that any Mic/Speaker combination that > exported HFP instead of HSP didn't work, but that's fixed upstream (but > you might need to upgrade your pulseaudio). I don't want to hijack this thread, but I tried now my two Jabra speakers (one is used and another is brand new which I got from IT) and both don't work on my FC40 laptop. Thanks > > James > >