Re: Does my understanding correct?

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On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:21 AM, Richard Yang
<weiyang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Wed, May 02, 2012 at 08:59:40AM -0600, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
>>On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:24 AM, Richard Yang
>><weiyang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 09:56:13AM -0600, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
>>>>On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:01 PM, Richard Yang
>>>><weiyang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>> Thanks for your nice chart.
>>>>I think assignments shown for the PCIe-to-PCI bridge are OK, although
>>>>I would draw it like this because the bridge originates a single bus
>>>>02 that may have multiple devices attached to it (this side is PCI,
>>>>not PCIe, so it really is a shared bus):
>>>>
>>>>                                 ^
>>>>                                 |
>>>>                        +--------+--------+
>>>>                        |     00:02.0     |
>>>>                        | PCIe-PCI bridge |
>>>>                        |                 |
>>>>                        +--------+--------+
>>>>                                 |
>>>>                                 |
>>>>                      +---------------------+    Bus 02
>>>>                      |                     |
>>>>                      |                     |
>>>>                      |                     |
>>>>                 +----v----+           +----v----+
>>>>                 | 02:00.0 |           | 02:01.0 |
>>>>                 +---------+           +---------+
>>>>
>>> So for this case, there is not internal bus, while this is really a
>>> physical shared bus, not a logical one.
>>
>>Yes.  The downstream side of the PCIe-PCI bridge is PCI.
>>
>>>>I think the PCIe switch part is incorrect.  Here's Figure 1-3 from sec
>>>>1.3.3 of the PCIe r3 spec:
>>>
>>>>A PCIe switch appears as two or more PCI-PCI bridges.  One is
>>>>associated with the upstream port; the others with the downstream
>>>>ports.
>>>>
>>>>A bridge always has a primary side and a secondary side.  In your
>>>>diagram, the bridge associated with the upstream port would be 00:01.0
>>>>(primary bus 00) and could have a secondary bus of 03 (since 02 is
>>>>already consumed by the PCIe-PCI bridge).
>>> Hmm... I am confused why is 03. 02 is used but 01 is not used.
>>> Switch should be configured after PCIe2PCI bridge?
>>
>>It's likely that the PCIe switch would be configured first, since its
>>device number is lower, but that is not a requirement.  The
>>requirement is that the bus number ranges consumed by bridges be
>>non-overlapping.  In this case (using your original topology plus my
>>PCIe switch diagram), we'd have:
>>
>>  1. an endpoint at 00:00.0 -- consumes no additional buses
>>  2. a PCIe switch at 00:01.0 -- consumes at least [bus 03-06]
>>  3. a PCIe-PCI bridge at 00:02.0 -- consumes least [bus 02] (its secondary bus)

> So this is a sequence issue. Below is also a valid configuration.
>  2. a PCIe switch at 00:01.0 -- consumes at least [bus 02-05]
>  3. a PCIe-PCI bridge at 00:02.0 -- consumes least [bus 06] (its secondary bus)

Yes, this would also be valid.

>>Bus 03 is the internal PCIe switch bus that connects the upstream port
>>to the downstream ports.  Buses 04, 05, and 06 are the links
>>originating from the downstream ports.
>>
>>>>The bridges associated with the downstream ports are all logically on
>>>>bus 03.  Their primary bus number would be 03; they might be 03:00.0,
>>>>03:01.0, 03:02.0, etc.  Each would have its own secondary bus number,
>>>>for example 04, 05, 06.  That secondary bus number is for the
>>>>downstream link from the corresponding downstream port.
>>> Hmm, as you mentioned in previous letter, PCIe is an point-to-point
>>> protocol, then the secondary bus should reside in the Switch?
>>> Do you think my Bus#4 is correct?
>>
>>No.  Bus 04 is a PCIe link that connects the downstream port (03:00.0)
>>to a single PCIe device.  That device (04:00) could be a PCIe
>>endpoint, or it could be the upstream port of another PCIe switch.
>>(If it is a switch, more bus numbers would be required.)
>
>
>                                      ^
>                                      |
>      +-------------------------------|------------------------------+
>      |                               |                              |
>      |                          +----+----+                         |
>      |                          | virtual |                         |
>      |                          | PCI-PCI |                         |
>      |                          | bridge  |                         |
>      |                          +----+----+                         |
>      |                               |                              |
>      |                               |Bus#3                         |
>      |                               |                              |
>      |          +----------------------------------------+          |
>      |          |                    |                   |          |
>      |          |                    |                   |          |
>      |          |03:00.0             |03:01.0            |03:02.0   |
>      |     +----+----+          +----+----+         +----++---+     |
>      |     | virtual |          | virtual |         | virtual |     |
>      |     | PCI-PCI |          | PCI-PCI |         | PCI-PCI |     |
>      |     | bridge  |          | bridge  |         | bridge  |     |
>      |     +----+----+          +----+----+         +----+----+     |
>      |          |                    |                   |          |
>      |          |                    |                   |          |
>      +----------|--------------------|-------------------|----------+
>                 | Bus#4?             |                   |
>                 v                    v                   v
>
> So the link itself is Bus#4?

Exactly.

> If there is no device under this link, will Bus#4 appear in kernel?

Yes, I'm pretty sure we build the bus 04 pci_bus structure, then scan
bus 04 for devices.  Even if we find none, the pci_bus struct for bus
04 remains.

> And then the PCIe switch is represented by 4 pci_dev structure and each
> is bridge type?

Yes.  And each has an associated pci_bus struct for its secondary bus.

Bjorn
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