On 2019-05-30 4:59 p.m., Sven Schnelle wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 09:55:43PM +0200, Sven Schnelle wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 04:15:03PM +0200, Helge Deller wrote: >>>>> Exactly. And as: >>>>> >>>>> a) All C3600 PDC versions clear the NP bit >>>>> b) All C37XX/J5000 PDC version set the NP bit >>>>> >>>>> i don't think there's some bug in the PDC. I would guess that the patch Carlo >>>>> reported to fix issues is just hiding the real problem. Would be interesting >>>>> to run Carlo's Test on a C37XX. >>>> Probably, hardware cache coherent I/O is not implemented correctly for Elroy based systems. >>>> https://www.hpl.hp.com/hpjournal/96feb/feb96a6.pdf >>>> Does it work on C360? >>> I slowly start to get confused... >>> Just thinking about another possibility: Maybe we can rely on the value of the >>> NP iopdir_fdc bit only on machines with >= PA8700 CPUs? >>> For older machines (which would need opdir_fdc) HP-UX or other operating >>> systems decides on the found CPU. >>> This would explain why it's not set on Carlo's C3600, and if Sven's C240 >>> (with a PA8200 CPU) doesn't has the bit set too, then this could explain this theory. >> I just re-tested my kexec branch, and the HPMC i was seeing when kexec'ing a new >> kernel on my J5000 is now gone with Helge's patch. J5000 also has PCX-W. It was >> only triggered when i had SMP enabled, but this is somehow not suprising given >> the fact that a cache flush was missing. > Looks like i'm also confused now. My J5000 crashed with the kexec stuff again. > It's much less than before, only 1 out of 10 times. > > The patch does: > > if ((cond & ALT_COND_NO_IOC_FDC) && > ((boot_cpu_data.cpu_type < pcxw) || > (boot_cpu_data.cpu_type == pcxw_) || > (boot_cpu_data.pdc.capabilities & PDC_MODEL_IOPDIR_FDC))) > continue; > > So there should be no change for PCX-W and my statement that this fixes anything > on my J5000 is wrong. I think i'll disable the patching and see whether the problem > disappears. Is it possible that we are running in a mode where the cache/TLB does not issue coherent operations? There is a PDC_CACHE call to set the coherence state. Dave -- John David Anglin dave.anglin@xxxxxxxx