On 28.05.19 20:40, John David Anglin wrote: > On 2019-05-28 1:39 p.m., Sven Schnelle wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 07:24:29PM +0200, Rolf Eike Beer wrote: >>> Am Dienstag, 28. Mai 2019, 19:06:48 CEST schrieb John David Anglin: >>>> On 2019-05-28 11:38 a.m., Sven Schnelle wrote: >>>>> Interesting. Now that you mention it i see that my C3750 reports the same. >>>>> Google returned the following page >>>>> https://support.hpe.com/hpsc/swd/public/detail?swItemId=PF_CCJ70020 >>>>> >>>>> Which is 2.0, and only mentions "C3650/C3700/C3750/J6700/J6750 firmware" >>>>> So maybe these machines have NP set, and machines "below" (like C3600) >>>>> don't have it set. >>>>> >>>>> I wonder what happens if you try to flash a 5.0 firmware to such a box. >>>> >>>> From what I see, the "C3650/C3700/C3750/J6700/J6750" and "HP 9000 Model >>>> B1000/C3000/J5000/J7000" use different firmware. >>> >>> Which makes sense as the former have use a 8600 CPU, while the latter have >>> 8700 ones. >> >> Exactly. And as: >> >> a) All C3600 PDC versions clear the NP bit >> b) All C37XX/J5000 PDC version set the NP bit >> >> i don't think there's some bug in the PDC. I would guess that the patch Carlo >> reported to fix issues is just hiding the real problem. Would be interesting >> to run Carlo's Test on a C37XX. > > Probably, hardware cache coherent I/O is not implemented correctly for Elroy based systems. > https://www.hpl.hp.com/hpjournal/96feb/feb96a6.pdf > Does it work on C360? I slowly start to get confused... Just thinking about another possibility: Maybe we can rely on the value of the NP iopdir_fdc bit only on machines with >= PA8700 CPUs? For older machines (which would need opdir_fdc) HP-UX or other operating systems decides on the found CPU. This would explain why it's not set on Carlo's C3600, and if Sven's C240 (with a PA8200 CPU) doesn't has the bit set too, then this could explain this theory. Helge