On Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 05:49:36PM +0200, Thibaut VARENE wrote: > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 1:20 AM, John David Anglin > <dave.anglin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi Thibaut, > > > > On 13-Jun-11, at 6:19 PM, Thibaut VARENE wrote: > > > >>> I would say your other machines need updating even if the process is > >>> somewhat rocky as that's the only way a broadbased release can be tested. > >> > >> Well I can assign one machine (the a500, being easy to reboot/fix as > >> it is) to testing kernels, but for a stable kernel suitable for the > >> machines I'm e.g. assigning to the GCC Compile Farm[0], what would be > >> a good SMP kernel version to choose? I'm looking for the same level of > >> hassle-freeness as 2.6.22.19 since these machines are under relatively > >> heavy load and I cannot afford to tend to their care on a daily basis > >> ;-) > > > > Sorry for the delay in responding. I think assigning the a500 to the GCC > > farm > > provides good visibility. For GCC, the kernel version doesn't matter much. > > The > > main issue is stability. > > OK, so I suppose it's fine to stick with 2.6.22.19? I thought there > were issues with un-implemented syscalls and such, so I don't really > know... > > > I was wondering if the rp3440 in the ESIEE might be assigned to running > > debian > > buildd. I believe that the current set of known kernel patches will make > > this > > machine reasonably stable under medium load. Carlos recently found a big > > bug in the kernel futex code. In any case, I recently successfully built > > many > > unstable packages on my rp3440. > > > > I would be willing to help getting this going. > > I have no problem with this, the only "active" user of the rp3440 is > Aurélien, so I suppose it wouldn't be a problem. Yet, my understanding > is that the rp3440 is extremely slow at building anything (much slower > than my other machines, it seems) because of the cache flush issues. > AIUI that's why Debian stuck to J6700 for buildds, because those > machines were a lot faster. I don't think speed was really a concern - it was more hardware availability and some hand-wavy belief that these machines would be more stable. Honestly, the most reliable build machine I've used is my C3700. I don't recall ever having any build issues with that. Anything it gives up in speed is definitely outweighed by having to e.g. retry gcc 5 times before succeeding. By the end of the port, I'd normally handbuild new gcc uploads here to avoid thrashing on the real buildds. If given the option, I'd recommend 3 of those boxes for a buildd ring. > Other than that, the rp3440 currently runs unstable with 2.6.22.19, so > I suppose a complete reinstall would be in order, and I'm not sure I > have time to deal with that just yet. I'd be happy to provide remote > access to the machine though, if someone steps up. FWIW, the only > machine I have left running lenny is a J5000, 2x440MHz PA8500, > previously used as an autobuilder for debian-multimedia.org. > > HTH, > T-Bone > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-parisc" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html