On Thu, Feb 15, 2024, at 09:31, Andreas Kemnade wrote: > On Wed, 14 Feb 2024 23:42:58 +0100 > "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 14, 2024, at 13:26, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote: >> > On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 at 23:22, Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 9:12 PM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> > On Tue, Feb 13, 2024, at 16:36, Guenter Roeck wrote: >> >> > > On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 03:14:21PM +0000, Peter Maydell wrote: >> >> >> >> Andrea Adami and Dmitry Eremin-Solenikov did the work in 2017 to >> >> modernize it a bit, and Russell helped out. I was under the impression >> >> that they only used real hardware though! >> > >> > I used both Qemu and actual hardware (having collie, poodle, tosa and >> > c860 that was easy). >> > >> > The biggest issue with Zaurus PDAs was that supporting interesting >> > parts of the platform (PCMCIA, companion chips) required almost >> > rebootstrapping of the corresponding drivers. >> > E.g. I had a separate driver for the LoCoMo chip which worked properly >> > with the DT systems. >> > PCMCIA was a huuuge trouble and it didn't play well at all. The driver >> > must be rewritten to use the component framework. >> >> If we want to actually go there, I think the best option for PCMCIA >> support is likely to replace the entire "soc_common" pcmcia driver >> with a simple drivers/pata/ storage driver and no support for >> other cards. There was a driver until commit 38943cbd25a2 >> ("ata: remove palmld pata driver") that could serve as an >> template. >> > hmm, main usage for PCMCIA/CF in those devices was often something else, > not storage, at least on the IPAQ h2200. Wondering wether that road is > actually good. When I was mainly using those devices, I was not good in > mainlining things. Do we still support any non-storage CF devices that someone might actually use? Do you have a specific example in mind? These are the currently supported devices that I see: git grep -B4 -w depends.*PCMCIA | grep "Kconfig-\(config\|menuconfig\)" | grep -v ^drivers/pcmcia drivers/ata/Kconfig-config PATA_PCMCIA drivers/bluetooth/Kconfig-config BT_HCIDTL1 drivers/bluetooth/Kconfig-config BT_HCIBT3C drivers/bluetooth/Kconfig-config BT_HCIBLUECARD drivers/comedi/Kconfig-menuconfig COMEDI_PCMCIA_DRIVERS drivers/mmc/host/Kconfig-config MMC_SDRICOH_CS drivers/mtd/maps/Kconfig-config MTD_PCMCIA drivers/mtd/maps/Kconfig-config MTD_PCMCIA_ANONYMOUS drivers/net/arcnet/Kconfig-menuconfig ARCNET drivers/net/arcnet/Kconfig-config ARCNET_COM20020_CS drivers/net/can/sja1000/Kconfig-config CAN_EMS_PCMCIA drivers/net/can/sja1000/Kconfig-config CAN_PEAK_PCMCIA drivers/net/can/softing/Kconfig-config CAN_SOFTING_CS drivers/net/ethernet/3com/Kconfig-config NET_VENDOR_3COM drivers/net/ethernet/3com/Kconfig-config PCMCIA_3C574 drivers/net/ethernet/3com/Kconfig-config PCMCIA_3C589 drivers/net/ethernet/8390/Kconfig-config PCMCIA_AXNET drivers/net/ethernet/8390/Kconfig-config APNE drivers/net/ethernet/8390/Kconfig-config PCMCIA_PCNET drivers/net/ethernet/amd/Kconfig-config PCMCIA_NMCLAN drivers/net/ethernet/fujitsu/Kconfig-config NET_VENDOR_FUJITSU drivers/net/ethernet/fujitsu/Kconfig-config PCMCIA_FMVJ18X drivers/net/ethernet/smsc/Kconfig-config PCMCIA_SMC91C92 drivers/net/ethernet/xircom/Kconfig-config NET_VENDOR_XIRCOM drivers/net/ethernet/xircom/Kconfig-config PCMCIA_XIRC2PS drivers/parport/Kconfig-config PARPORT_PC_PCMCIA drivers/scsi/pcmcia/Kconfig-menuconfig SCSI_LOWLEVEL_PCMCIA drivers/ssb/Kconfig-config SSB_PCMCIAHOST_POSSIBLE drivers/tty/Kconfig-config IPWIRELESS drivers/tty/serial/8250/Kconfig-config SERIAL_8250_CS drivers/usb/host/Kconfig-config USB_SL811_CS sound/pcmcia/Kconfig-menuconfig SND_PCMCIA Arnd