On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Stef Bon <stefbon@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > 2012/11/29 Al Viro <viro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: >> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 09:31:05PM +0100, Stef Bon wrote: >>> 2012/11/29 Al Viro <viro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: >>> > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 05:39:27PM +0100, Stef Bon wrote: >>> > > >>> With Ubuntu people started Unity, also without a killer app, but just >>> with an opinion, an impression, an idea. And anyone can dislike or >>> like it, it's a succes as far as I can see. What the hell is wrong >>> with suggesting things based upon an idea/impression? >> >> IOW, it was a true positive for "([Uu]ser experience)|UX" as BS predictor. >> Nice to know... >> >> Look, you'd been asked to give good reasons for doing some thing; replying with >> "it's My Opinion(tm), piss off if that's not enough reason for you" would at >> least have been honest. References to UX, as your last reply has confirmed, >> had been basically an obfuscated equivalent of that. > > No no, I do not say "piss off". If that is what my message looked > like, I'm sorry for that. But I do not have any killer app or > something. I cannot convince you otherwise that saying it's my > opinion. I do not have numbers or something like that proving I have a > point. I wish I have. But I do understand you do not agree with me, > and see things different. >> >> Sorry for being harsh, but I've had it with the GNOME crowd and their ilk >> using just such references to handwave away any questions. >> >> There's nothing wrong with having opinions/impressions/etc. Everyone got >> their own, etc. But "I believe so, period" is not a sufficient answer to >> "what makes that a good idea?" and obfuscating it up is even worse. > > So, no I do not say "I believe so, period" . But I cannot convince you > ...and we have different opinions here.. I don't know any method here > of "proving having a point". One question that hasn't been answered AFAIK is how well the current Linux directory change notification API maps to the needs of its principal user (presumably Samba, and kde/gnome file managers), and a loosely related question of how well the change notification API maps to the corresponding network file system protocol operations (TRANSACT_NOTIFY_CHANGE) which is a fairly common operation sent to Samba, and obviously for the cifs/smb2/smb3 case would limit what types of events the client can notify the desktop/file manager about. In particular, the 10 or 15 filter flags, and the (at least) 8 events (add/remove/modify/rename etc.), available in tne network protocol AFAIK have not been matched to see if they match closely to the existing Linux API. -- Thanks, Steve -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-nfs" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
