On Thu, 2012-11-29 at 15:49 +0100, Stef Bon wrote: > 2012/11/29 Myklebust, Trond <Trond.Myklebust@xxxxxxxxxx>: > >> -----Original Message----- > >> > >> 1. while the filesystems are using credentails or tickets to get access to a > >> remote resource, this is a bit difficult for notifyfs. > >> Notifyfs bypasses that. Maybe this leads to permissions/abuse I cannot see > >> directly. > > > > Lack of security is a showstopper. There are good reasons why inotify won't allow you to monitor files for which you don't have access permissions. > > > > Let me explain, I think you not understand fully. > > Notifyfs does not allow users/clients to set a watch if there are no > read permissions (the object and access for the whole path to it), so > there are no security issues there. > > What I mean is that any program can contact the remote notifyfs > server, and this remote notifyfs server cannot figure out it's a valid > request from another notifyfs server, or a program faking that. > In the construction I describe it does not check that (yet). > > >> > >> What do you think, is the latest option possible?? > > > > So what is the killer app for inotify on NFS/CIFS/FUSE? What programs do you need to run on a NFS/CIFS/FUSE client that use inotify and that wouldn't be better off running on the server instead? > > > > What do you mean with "better off running on the server instead"? > There are a lot of programs interested in fs changes, like a simple > file manager. I think it's a very nice feature to see changes right > away in the view. > It's not a killer app, but a think the whole user experience is > improving when your system is able to keep a view (like a view in the > file manager) up to date. > > > IOW: whose problem are you trying to solve? > > I think that enabling fs notify on network filesystems like nfs, cifs > and fuse is a good thing (see above). On systems like Windows and iOS > since long time this works. CIFS has notification capabilities built in (oplocks), as does NFS (leases), is this not sufficient ? Simo. -- Simo Sorce Samba Team GPL Compliance Officer <simo@xxxxxxxxx> Principal Software Engineer at Red Hat, Inc. <simo@xxxxxxxxxx> -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-nfs" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
