On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Mark Moseley <moseleymark@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Mark Moseley <moseleymark@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Mark Moseley <moseleymark@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Simon Kirby <sim@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> On Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 09:42:14AM -0800, Mark Moseley wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Simon Kirby <sim@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > I've noticed nfs_inode_cache is ever-increasing as well with 2.6.37: >>>>> > >>>>> > ?OBJS ACTIVE ?USE OBJ SIZE ?SLABS OBJ/SLAB CACHE SIZE NAME >>>>> > 2562514 2541520 ?99% ? ?0.95K ?78739 ? ? ? 33 ? 2519648K nfs_inode_cache >>>>> > 467200 285110 ?61% ? ?0.02K ? 1825 ? ? ?256 ? ? ?7300K kmalloc-16 >>>>> > 299397 242350 ?80% ? ?0.19K ?14257 ? ? ? 21 ? ? 57028K dentry >>>>> > 217434 131978 ?60% ? ?0.55K ? 7767 ? ? ? 28 ? ?124272K radix_tree_node >>>>> > 215232 ?81522 ?37% ? ?0.06K ? 3363 ? ? ? 64 ? ? 13452K kmalloc-64 >>>>> > 183027 136802 ?74% ? ?0.10K ? 4693 ? ? ? 39 ? ? 18772K buffer_head >>>>> > 101120 ?71184 ?70% ? ?0.03K ? ?790 ? ? ?128 ? ? ?3160K kmalloc-32 >>>>> > ?79616 ?59713 ?75% ? ?0.12K ? 2488 ? ? ? 32 ? ? ?9952K kmalloc-128 >>>>> > ?66560 ?41257 ?61% ? ?0.01K ? ?130 ? ? ?512 ? ? ? 520K kmalloc-8 >>>>> > ?42126 ?26650 ?63% ? ?0.75K ? 2006 ? ? ? 21 ? ? 32096K ext3_inode_cache >>>>> > >>>>> > http://0x.ca/sim/ref/2.6.37/inodes_nfs.png >>>>> > http://0x.ca/sim/ref/2.6.37/cpu2_nfs.png >>>>> > >>>>> > Perhaps I could bisect just fs/nfs changes between 2.6.35 and 2.6.36 to >>>>> > try to track this down without having to wait too long, unless somebody >>>>> > can see what is happening here. >>>>> >>>>> I'll get started bisecting too, since this is something of a >>>>> show-stopper. Boxes that pre-2.6.36 would stay up for months at a time >>>>> now have to be powercycled every couple of days (which is about how >>>>> long it takes for this behavior to show up). This is across-the-board >>>>> for about 50 boxes, ranging from 2.6.36 to 2.6.36.2. >>>>> >>>>> Simon: It's probably irrelevant since these are kernel threads, but >>>>> I'm curious what distro your boxes are running. Ours are Debian Lenny, >>>>> i386, Dell Poweredge 850s. Just trying to figure out any >>>>> commonalities. I'll get my boxes back on 2.6.36.2 and start watching >>>>> nfs_inode_cache as well. >>>> >>>> Same distro, x86_64, similar servers. >>>> >>>> I'm not sure if the two cases I am seeing are exactly the same problem, >>>> but on the log crunching boxes, system time seems proportional to >>>> nfs_inode_cache and nfs_inode_cache just keeps growing forever; however, >>>> if I stop the load and unmount the NFS mount points, all of the >>>> nfs_inode_cache objects do actually go away (after umount finishes). >>>> >>>> It seems the shrinker callback might not be working as intended here. >>>> >>>> On the shared server case, the crazy spinlock contention from all of the >>>> flusher processes happens suddenly and overloads the boxes for 10-15 >>>> minutes, and then everything recovers. Over 21 of these boxes, they >>>> each have about 500k-700k nfs_inode_cache objects. The log cruncher hit >>>> 3.3 million nfs_inode_cache objects before I unmounted. >>>> >>>> Are your boxes repeating this behaviour at any predictable interval? >>> >>> Simon: >>> My boxes definitely fall into the latter category, with spinlock >>> regularly sitting at 60-80% CPU (according to 'perf top'). As far as >>> predictability, not strictly, but it's typically after an uptime of >>> 2-3 days. They take so long to get into this state that I've never >>> seen the actual transition in person, just the after-effects of >>> flush-0:xx gone crazy. These boxes have a number of other NFS mounts, >>> but it's on the flush-0:xx's for the heavily written-to NFS mounts >>> that are spinning wildly, which you'd expect to be the case. The >>> infrequently written-to NFS servers' flush-0:xx isn't to be found in >>> 'top' output. >>> >>> I'd booted into older kernels after my initial reply, so I'm 14 hrs >>> into booting a box back into 2.6.36.2 and another box into a >>> double-bisected 2.6.35-2.6.36 kernel (my first bisect hit compile >>> errors). Both are running normally but that fits with the pattern so >>> far. >>> >>> NFS Guys: >>> Anything else we can be digging up to help debug this? This is a >>> pretty ugly issue. >>> >> >> NOTE: NFS/Kernel guys: I've left the 2.6.36.2 box still thrashing >> about in case there's something you'd like me to look at. >> >> Ok, both my 2.6.36.2 kernel box and my 2.6.35->2.6.36 bisect box (was >> bisected to ce7db282a3830f57f5b05ec48288c23a5c4d66d5 -- this is my >> first time doing bisect, so I'll preemptively apologize for doing >> anything silly) both went berserk within 15 mins of each other, after >> an uptime of around 63 hours for 2.6.36.2 and 65 hours for the >> bisected box. The 2.6.36.2 one is still running with all the various >> flush-0:xx threads spinning wildly. The bisected box just keeled over >> and died, but is back up now. The only kernel messages logged are just >> of the "task kworker/4:1:359 blocked for more than 120 seconds" >> variety, all with _raw_spin_lock_irq at the top of the stack trace. >> >> Looking at slabinfo, specifically, this: stats=$(grep nfs_inode_cache >> /proc/slabinfo | awk '{ print $2, $3 }') >> the active_objs and num_objs both increase to over a million (these >> boxes are delivering mail to NFS-mounted mailboxes, so that's >> perfectly reasonable). On both boxes, looking at sar, things start to >> go awry around 10am today EST. At that time on the 2.6.36.2 box, the >> NFS numbers look like this: >> >> Fri Jan 7 09:58:00 2011: 1079433 1079650 >> Fri Jan 7 09:59:00 2011: 1079632 1080300 >> Fri Jan 7 10:00:00 2011: 1080196 1080300 >> Fri Jan 7 10:01:01 2011: 1080599 1080716 >> Fri Jan 7 10:02:01 2011: 1081074 1081288 >> >> on the bisected, like this: >> >> Fri Jan 7 09:59:34 2011: 1162786 1165320 >> Fri Jan 7 10:00:34 2011: 1163301 1165320 >> Fri Jan 7 10:01:34 2011: 1164369 1165450 >> Fri Jan 7 10:02:35 2011: 1164179 1165450 >> Fri Jan 7 10:03:35 2011: 1165795 1166958 >> >> When the bisected box finally died, the last numbers were: >> >> Fri Jan 7 10:40:33 2011: 1177156 1177202 >> Fri Jan 7 10:42:21 2011: 1177157 1177306 >> Fri Jan 7 10:44:55 2011: 1177201 1177324 >> Fri Jan 7 10:45:55 2011: 1177746 1177826 >> >> On the still-thrashing 2.6.36.2 box, the highwater mark is: >> >> Fri Jan 7 10:23:30 2011: 1084020 1084070 >> >> and once things went awry, the active_objs started falling away and >> the number_objs has stayed at 1084070. Last numbers were: >> >> Fri Jan 7 12:19:34 2011: 826623 1084070 >> >> The bisected box had reached 1mil entries (or more significantly >> 1048576 entries) by y'day evening. The 2.6.36.2 box hit that by 7am >> EST today. So in neither case was there a big spike in entries. >> >> These boxes have identical workloads. They're not accessible from the >> net, so there's no chance of a DDoS or something. The significance of >> 10am EST could be either uptime-related (all these have gone down >> after 2-3 days) or just due to the to-be-expected early morning spike >> in mail flow. >> > > Actually, I shouldn't say 'perfectly reasonable'. On other boxes in > that pool, doing the same workload (but running 2.6.32.27), the number > is more like: > > 117196 120756 > > after 9 days of uptime. So maybe 8 x that isn't quite reasonable > after only 2.5 days of uptime. > On the 2.6.36.2 box, after shutting down everything else that'd touch NFS, I let the flush threads spin for a long time with nfs and rpc debug turned up to 65535. I also tried unmounting one of the NFS partitions which hung for a very very long time. As they spun there was no debug logging except the occasional thing. It eventually spit out 197903 messages of "NFS: clear cookie (0xeadd3288/0x(nil))" (different addresses in each line, obviously) and since then things quieted back down. The flush-0:xx threads don't even show up in 'top' output anymore and _raw_spin_lock in 'perf top' has gone back down to its usual area of 3-5%. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-nfs" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html