More developments on the problem: I did have a half-duplex problem with the firewall when I downgraded the machine. However, I've since fixed the problem. The gateway seems to work a little better (like being able to send ping packets over 32768 bytes), but the stalling problem still exists. A firewall-to-client ping gives me about a 7% packet loss. At this point, I'm almost sure it's the NE2000 (ISA) card driver, which is why I'm CCing this message to the network driver guys. Like I said earlier, I'd tried the ne2k-diag program and it reports the card as full-duplex. (BTW, Donald, the program will turn off my network, until I do a "/etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart" command.) It seems like the card itself (or the drivers behind it) will suddenly turn off for a few tenths of a second (or sometimes even 2-4 seconds) and then turn back on. That's what the tcpdumps and ping tests seem to indicate. I know that my K6-2/300Mhz is not slowing down the network. NNTP reference: http://groups.google.com/groups?ic=1&th=79dd16f31f6b110f,8 -- Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper (SineSwiper@ResonatorSoft.com) Computer techie, Perl hacker, and all-purpose Internet guru Resonator Software (http://www.ResonatorSoft.com/) - : send the line "unsubscribe linux-net" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org