Stas Sergeev wrote: > 15.08.2013 14:27, Frantisek Hanzlik пишет: >> - regarding to building FreeDOS with GPLed compiler and things that >> DOSEMU/FreeDOS isn't in certain Linux distros: as I understand this, >> distro maintainers not include it in distro cores because FreeDOS >> cannot be compiled with _open_source_ compiler (IMO it doesn't need >> to be GPLed one). Thus, isn't their opinion from pre-openwatcom era >> and now nothing prevent to include DOSEMU/FreeDOS into Linux >> distributions? > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sybase_Open_Watcom_Public_License I tried understand this and referenced links, but right interpretation is perhaps over my english skills. Only a few things: - it seems as OW is released under "Sybase Open Watcom Public License version 1.0" sometimes from 2002, and according to You mentioned wiki page, there is a draft of version 2.0 of the Licence from 2004. Then, will not be fine when this v2.0 license will satisfy distributions leaders? As I'm reading on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing so e.g. several Apple Public Source License 1.0/1.1/1.2 aren't conforming with distro requirements, but Apple Public Source License 2.0 is fine. World evolves, sometimes in right direction, hope OW will have better license soon. - second things, I so so understand as due to licensing problem (see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=376431 http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-legal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/msg34680.html referenced from above mentioned wikipedia page) OW isn't included in certain Linux Distros. But FreeDOS case is IMO something other, there is FreeDOS GPL code now compiled under OW - which has not suitable license, but still it is open source piece of SW. For me, it seems as e.g. restrictions to use firmware under Fedora: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing:Main#Binary_Firmware are more benevolent than use FreeDOS with DOSEMU (maybe in this case is possible imagine FreeDOS as some sort of 'firmware', as it isn't directly executable under Linux, yes?) >> Of course, I personally shall be happy to see DOSEMU >> in Linux distributions too. > Someone have to write a compiler for for FreeDOS and release > it under GPL. :) Yeah, it would be super, but we need be realistic... IMO there's no need to be all strictly GPL (v2, v2+, v3+, LGPL+/- :), maybe lot of other OSI licenses accepted by FSF would be fine too. >> - FreeDOS compatibility with win3.1 maybe isn't too critical and may >> be abandoned (my opinion; at first I think win3.x is some transient >> stage, neither DOS, nor windows (in Czech we call it 'kočkopes' which >> is some as 'catdog' - neither cat, nor dog). And second, I not know >> when someone use win3.x - I know several peoples which uses DOS >> programs, but I don't know anybody who use win3.x (in fact, two years > This is true in real world, but in the virtual world of dosemu, win31 > is the only possibility to browse the internet with netscape navigator > gold. :) Yes, I just now, out from curiosity, insert some my old CD from 1998 and found 16-bit Netscape Navigator gold (v3.04) and standard (3.04 and 4.04) there. Where those times are... Nostalgia... But when I 15 years was not using them, most likely I will get along without them in the future too ;) > Not a very big deal, sure, but still it is a bit of a problem > by itself that FreeDOS, being recommended to use with dosemu, > shrinks its functionality compared to other DOSes. It should enrich > the functionality, not shrink. IMO those are functionalities related to 32-bit CPUs leverage, as work with memory, task switching etc. - and these features even are not fully compatible across all DOS distributions. FreeDOS perhaps extend DOS functionality in other areas too. Regards task switching - for me is simpler run two DOSEMU instances (with treatment of different .dosemurc/imagedir paths) than solve multitasking in DOS (my DOS programs not interfere one with another, of course) -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-msdos" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
