Re: Install DR-DOS 7.0 into dosemu on Linux Mint (Debian)

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Stas Sergeev wrote:
> 15.08.2013 14:27, Frantisek Hanzlik пишет:
>> - regarding to building FreeDOS with GPLed compiler and things that
>> DOSEMU/FreeDOS isn't in certain Linux distros: as I understand this,
>> distro maintainers not include it in distro cores because FreeDOS
>> cannot be compiled with _open_source_ compiler (IMO it doesn't need
>> to be GPLed one). Thus, isn't their opinion from pre-openwatcom era
>> and now nothing prevent to include DOSEMU/FreeDOS into Linux
>> distributions?

I tried understand this and referenced links, but right interpretation
is perhaps over my english skills. Only a few things:
- it seems as OW is released under "Sybase Open Watcom Public License
version 1.0" sometimes from 2002, and according to You mentioned wiki
page, there is a draft of version 2.0 of the Licence from 2004.
Then, will not be fine when this v2.0 license will satisfy distributions
As I'm reading on
so e.g. several Apple Public Source License 1.0/1.1/1.2 aren't conforming
with distro requirements, but Apple Public Source License 2.0 is fine.
World evolves, sometimes in right direction, hope OW will have better
license soon.

- second things, I so so understand as due to licensing problem (see
referenced from above mentioned wikipedia page) OW isn't included in
certain Linux Distros. But FreeDOS case is IMO something other, there
is FreeDOS GPL code now compiled under OW - which has not suitable
license, but still it is open source piece of SW.

For me, it seems as e.g. restrictions to use firmware under Fedora:
are more benevolent than use FreeDOS with DOSEMU (maybe in this case
is possible imagine FreeDOS as some sort of 'firmware', as it isn't
directly executable under Linux, yes?)

>>  Of course, I personally shall be happy to see DOSEMU
>> in Linux distributions too.
> Someone have to write a compiler for for FreeDOS and release
> it under GPL. :)

Yeah, it would be super, but we need be realistic...
IMO there's no need to be all strictly GPL (v2, v2+, v3+, LGPL+/- :),
maybe lot of other OSI licenses accepted by FSF would be fine too.

>> - FreeDOS compatibility with win3.1 maybe isn't too critical and may
>> be abandoned (my opinion; at first I think win3.x is some transient
>> stage, neither DOS, nor windows (in Czech we call it 'kočkopes' which
>> is some as 'catdog' - neither cat, nor dog). And second, I not know
>> when someone use win3.x - I know several peoples which uses DOS
>> programs, but I don't know anybody who use win3.x (in fact, two years
> This is true in real world, but in the virtual world of dosemu, win31
> is the only possibility to browse the internet with netscape navigator
> gold. :)

Yes, I just now, out from curiosity, insert some my old CD from 1998 and
found 16-bit Netscape Navigator gold (v3.04) and standard (3.04 and 4.04)
there. Where those times are... Nostalgia... But when I 15 years was not
using them, most likely I will get along without them in the future too ;)

> Not a very big deal, sure, but still it is a bit of a problem
> by itself that FreeDOS, being recommended to use with dosemu,
> shrinks its functionality compared to other DOSes. It should enrich
> the functionality, not shrink.

IMO those are functionalities related to 32-bit CPUs leverage, as work
with memory, task switching etc. - and these features even are not
fully compatible across all DOS distributions. FreeDOS perhaps extend
DOS functionality in other areas too. Regards task switching - for me
is simpler run two DOSEMU instances (with treatment of different
.dosemurc/imagedir paths) than solve multitasking in DOS (my DOS
programs not interfere one with another, of course)

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