On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 07:49:40AM -0700, Tejun Heo wrote: > Hello, Michal. > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 04:43:51PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote: > > If yes, then I do not see it ;) Mostly because panic_on_oom doesn't have > > any scope. It is all or nothing thing. You can only control whether > > memcg OOMs should be considered or not because this is inherently > > dangerous to be the case by default. > > Oh yeah, so, panic_on_oom is like group oom on the root cgroup, right? > If 1, it treats the whole system as a single unit and kills it no > matter the oom domain. If 2, it only does so if the oom is not caused > by restrictions in subdomains. > > > oom_group has a scope and that scope is exactly what we are trying to > > find a proper semantic for. And especially what to do if descendants in > > the hierarchy disagree with parent(s). While I do not see a sensible > > configuration where the scope of the OOM should define the workload is > > indivisible I would like to prevent from "carved in stone" semantic that > > couldn't be changed later. > > And we can scope it down the same way down the cgroup hierarchy. > > > So IMHO the best option would be to simply inherit the group_oom to > > children. This would allow users to do their weird stuff but the default > > configuration would be consistent. I think, that the problem occurs because of the default value (0). Let's imagine we can make default to 1. It means, that by default we kill the whole sub-tree up to the top-level cgroup, and it does guarantee consistency. If on some level userspace _knows_ how to handle OOM, it opts-out by setting oom.group to 0. E.g. systemd _knows_ that services working in systems slice are independent and knows how to detect that they are dead and restart. So, it sets system.slice/memory.oom.group to 0.