On Tuesday 17 February 2009, Hans Verkuil wrote: <snip> > The tentative conclusion was that putting it in the v4l2_input > struct was a good idea. I'm not sure I'd go as far as to call it even a tentative conclusion. I think the biggest stumbling block for now is how to handle Olivier Lorin's bi-directional camera case. <snip> > > Actually, support for a lot of the cheap webcams is relatively new to the > kernel. For a long time it was maintained outside the tree. So I'm not > surprised that came up fairly late in the game. > Yes, it's only the advent of libv4l that finally makes pulling all these drivers into the kernel viable as before that they all had to break the rules and have in kernel format translation from their obscure formats to something widely recognized to be useful. (I speak here as someone who has been maintaining such a driver out of kernel for a few years) > And everyone agrees with the need to solve the issue you have. There was > just the question of were to store that information. > > Whoever is pushing this change (you? Adam Baker? I must admit I'm not sure) > should write a small RFC with possible solutions and pros and cons, post > it, and when a consensus is reached make a test implementation, see if it > works and then post the patches with the change. This RFC should only > address the mount position, not pivoting or USB tables. Those are separate > issues. Hans de Geode and Olivier Lorin both posted RFCs on the subject which failed to attract the interest that this thread has so I was hoping to reach a conclusion here while there is still some momentum to peoples thoughts but if you think a new thread that starts with a summary of this one is the best way to proceed then I'm happy to start it. > > I find it much more productive to use RFCs for API changes/additions, it > keeps things more focused. Adam -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-media" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html