On 04/24/2014 11:39 AM, Carsten Andrich wrote: > "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" schrieb: >> On 04/23/2014 09:10 PM, Carsten Andrich wrote: >>> [...] >>> Unfortunately my experience with Linux packet sockets is very limited. I >>> messed with them a few times, but only really started using SOCK_RAW >>> packet sockets (including PACKET_MMAP) a few weeks ago (as a part of my >>> Bachelor's thesis). I haven't looked at the linux (networking) code >>> before Monday, when I tried to figure out if either packet.7 or I was >>> wrong regarding PACKET_LOSS. And I've never even touched SOCK_DGRAM. >>> >>> All this doesn't exactly qualify me for the job :) >> >> Maybe, maybe not. On the other hand, I have the idea (may be wrong) >> that Vince Weaver was a beginner with perf_event_open() when he >> started sending me patches. He's continued doing so with a vengeance >> (thanks again Vince!). That has been a great help, since >> perf_event_open() is a complex, constantly evolving API surface, and >> I just don't have the time to track the details. The API described in >> packet.7 has not changed much over time, but the man page has seen >> little love over the years. An inquiring mind, willing to test things >> and read code are the main prerequisites. ANd it sounds like some >> others might chip with help and Acks. > > We could give it a shot. It may be of an advantage to not have a deep > understanding of the code driving the interface one is trying to > document, as to not leave out aspects which appear to be self-evident. (Nod.) > It would make sense to limit our efforts to getting the PACKET_MMAP > documentation in good shape, at least for now. > I'd definitely require a reviewer (who's willing to answer some > questions in advance) with a good understanding of at_packet.c and since > I've already mentioned the need for synchronizing packet.7 and > packet_mmap.txt we'd also need a decent plan how to distribute/share > information among both. I'd leave that plan largely to you. It sounds like Willem and Daniel are willing to help out. > I'll try to come up with some ideas once I've handed in my Bachelor's > thesis (deadline ends 3 weeks from now). > Is there anyone else from the kernel-side we'd need to involve besides > Willem and Daniel? Maybe even Neil and Andi (CCed) might chip in from time to time. >>> Maybe we should continue this discussion in private, so we don't bore >>> everyone to death. >> >> Drop me a private mail if you want, but there are also benefits >> to public conversations ;-). > I just don't want to annoy anyone, since we kinda force Willem, Daniel > and now Vince to read this :) So it goes... Thanks, Carsten. Cheers, Michael -- Michael Kerrisk Linux man-pages maintainer; http://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/ Linux/UNIX System Programming Training: http://man7.org/training/ -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-man" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
