Re: ALPS touchpad ot correctly recognized: GlidePoint vs DualPoint

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On 09/09/2017 08:12 PM, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 09, 2017 at 10:36:06AM +0200, Pali Rohár wrote:
>> On Saturday 09 September 2017 10:12:42 Juanito wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> On 09/08/2017 08:48 AM, Pali Rohár wrote:
>>>> On Friday 08 September 2017 07:00:34 Juanito wrote:
>>>>>> ThinkPad with ALPS? Should not be it Synaptic? Maybe
>>>>>> miss-detection?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, I forgot to mention this. The ThinkPad came with a clickpad
>>>>> I **really** disliked, so I bought this on the Internet.
>>>>
>>>> So, here is a problem. ThinkPads works with Synaptic touchpads, not
>>>> with ALPS.
>>>
>>> There definitely seems to be a problem here :)
>>>
>>> Do you mean that the alps code might not be detecting the trackpoint
>>> because probably the red thingie works with synaptics?
>>>
>>> So could this be the situation:
>>> ALPS driver: Hey touchpad! Do you have a trackstick?
>>> ALPS touchpad: No, I don't.
>>> AD: Ok! (and thinks 'I am going to have to ignore all trackstick
>>> packets that might arrive')
>>>
>>> So the driver understands that there can't possibly be any buttons
>>> because there is no trackstick?
>>
>> IIRC ALPS touchpad hardware itself does not work with non-ALPS 
>> trackpoint.
>>
>> Masaki, any comments?
>>
>>>>> If by trackstick you mean the red thingie, it is **not** working.
>>>>
>>>> Ok. And it is working with your patch?
>>>
>>> No, it isn't :(
>>
>> I expected... You just created franken-hardware.
>>
>> Looks like with your hack patch it is possible to make buttons working, 
>> but I suspect that trackstick would.
>>
>> Maybe Masaki can provide more information about this fact if we can do 
>> anything.
>>
>> Dmitry, what you as maintainer going to do with this problem?
> 
> It really depends on Ota-san response. If ALPS needs a special version
> of firmware flashed for proper trackstick identification, then I guess
> Juanito will have to carry a local patch. I do not think we want to
> complicate the driver any further for supporting such after-market
> modification.
> 

If this only happens in this after-market (or franken-hardware...
hahaha), I'd totally understand if you didn't want to patch it upstream,
although it would be nice for me :)

> Does booting with psmouse.proto=imps makes trackstick work?
> 

I am afraid I can't test it now as I don't have access to the laptop. I
won't be able to test until two weeks. Will definitely do as soon as I can.

> Thanks.
> 

Thank **you** (Dmitry and everybody esle) for taking the time to look at
this.

Juanito
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