Re: smbus read help needed

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On 3 August 2016 20:42:30 GMT+05:30, Alison Schofield <amsfield22@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>On Wed, Aug 03, 2016 at 02:13:17PM +0200, Lars-Peter Clausen wrote:
>> On 08/03/2016 06:57 AM, Alison Schofield wrote:
>> > I'm blocked on this smbus read problem. 
>> > 
>> > hdc100x triggered buffer review feedback pointed out that I cannot
>rely
>> > on i2c_master_recv() since this driver currently only requires
>smbus funcs. 
>> > That led me to create an alternative path using smbus byte reads
>like the
>> > driver was doing in direct mode.
>> > 
>> > I found the reads don't work.  hdc100x does not expect a stop
>condition
>> > after sending the first byte which is what smbus_read_byte gives
>you. So,
>> > when you do the second read, you are getting the first byte again. 
>Net
>> > effect is that of the 14 bits used for the measurement, the 8 most
>> > significant bits are correct, the lower 6 are not.
>> > 
>> > hdc100x only wants this:
>> > 	S Addr Rd [A] [Data] A [Data] A ... A [Data] NA P 
>> > 
>> > I tried by testing, and by inspection, each flavor of smbus read
>and none 
>> > match the pattern that hdc100x wants.  (read_byte, read_word_data, 
>> > read_word_swapped, read_block_data, read_i2c_block_data all fail) 
>> > The read_byte is actually the only smbus read command the sensor
>accepts.
>> > 
>> > Texas Instruments publishes this doc explaining its SMBus
>(in)compatibility.
>> > http://www.ti.com/lit/an/sloa132/sloa132.pdf
>> > I did get one lead out of it.  It suggests using the write block
>protocol,
>> > with the READ bit set. That does look like it could work.  I tried
>using
>> > i2c_smbus_xfer() directly, thinking maybe I could fool it, but that
>doesn't
>> > get me down to the low level of control I think I would need to
>pull this off. 
>> > 
>> > I see flags for i2c_msg that might be helpful...if they worked at
>the
>> > smbus level: 
>> > I2C_M_REV_DIR_ADDR reverses r/w bit 
>> > I2C_M_NOSTART strips off that beginning segment we don't want
>> > 
>> > If we could use a NOSTOP flag on the read byte command then i could
>> > go back and get the next byte.  I don't see such a flag.  I don't
>see
>> > any flags, other than for PEC, on smbus.
>> > 
>> > Also, saw an MDELAY flag that seemed interesting, as if I could
>program
>> > the delay between starting and reading the measurement, so it could
>all
>> > be done in one block data command. Again, not smbus.
>> > 
>> > I guess these ideas are all breaking the idea of being smbus
>compliant
>> > anyway. 
>> > 
>> > Is this fixable with smbus? 
>> > If not, how do you 'graciously' change a drivers requirements?
>> 
>> 
>> I wouldn't worry about this too much. If the part is not SMBUS
>compliant
>> there is no need to try to access it only with SMBUS methods. A
>system
>> designer will most likely not connect the part to a SMBUS-only
>controller.
>> 
>> What's actually quite important though at a software level is that
>you do
>> your write+read in a single I2C transaction and not split it over
>multiple
>> calls. Otherwise a device on the same I2C bus could be accessed in
>between
>> and that would really break things.
>> 
>> If you want to address Jonathan's comments about backwards
>compatibility,
>> instead of returning with an error simply disable buffer mode if the
>host
>> controller only has SMBUS capabilities.
>>
>
>Thank Lars.
>I need to fix the existing direct mode reads first.  That is the part
>that could break existing userspace. 
If it is broken then fix it as you need to.
I hadn't registered existing use doesn't work!
>I like what you say about a system designer not connecting the part to
>a 
>SMBUS-only controller, but I'm guessing this fix is going to break
>the user who got lucky with SMBUS-only.
How could they get lucky if it needs fixing?
>
>I'll work up a patch for fixing the existing reads (with i2c cmds) and
>get it out for comments.
>
>alisons
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