Le Monday 11 August 2008 15:03:52 Jelle De Loecker, vous avez écrit : > Christophe Thommeret schreef: > > Le Monday 11 August 2008 11:22:43 Jelle De Loecker, vous avez écrit : > >> Christophe Thommeret schreef: > >>> Le Monday 04 August 2008 18:58:17 kurt xue, vous avez écrit : > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> I have two TechnoTrend DVB-C PCI card and 1 CAM, is it possible to use > >>>> this CAM to descramble signal from frontends of both DVB card? > >>>> > >>>> Thanks in advance for any reply! > >>>> Kurt > >>> > >>> No. > >> > >> That isn't a very helpful answer to his problem, is it? > >> He might have wanted any reply, but trying to be friendly wouldn't have > >> killed you. > >> > >> I'll give this a go: > >> > >> There is a way, called "cardsharing", to decode multiple streams with 1 > >> cam. > > > > CAM != CardReader > > > >> Do note, however, that some people think this is illegal, but that's > >> because cardsharing has a bad name. There are people who perform this > >> "cardsharing" with other people over the internet, which IS illegal. > > > > Getting control words outside the "secured" area is illegal. > > > >> Because of this most people don't want us to talk about *any *kind of > >> cardsharing, just to be on the safe side. > >> I can follow their reasoning but it still resembles some kind of > >> illogical censor which we should not tollerate! > >> But I digress ... > >> > >> Because this local cardsharing is not illegal (at least not where I'm > >> from), some set top boxes you buy in the store also have multiple > >> (working) tuners, so they perform some kind of internal cardsharing as > >> well. > > > > It's not a matter of cardsharing. It's of course technicaly possible to > > have one cam beeing feed with streams from different tuners, but not on > > most PC DVB cards like the TT ones where CI is wired to the card. > > > >> Please correct me if I'm wrong or being ignorant ... > > > > Done. > > What is the definition of this "secured" area? > > According to you it's perfectly ok to decrypt multiple streams with one > cam... but only if it is with the correct, approved, hardware? > > In essence, this is a shortcomming of the TT hardware, can we really > tell people not to fix it using software because it'll break some > ridiculous IP law, or whatever? Ridiculous law is still law. A law doesn't say what is ridiculous and what is not, what is good and what is bad. It just says what a human community allow or disallow, at a given time. -- Christophe Thommeret _______________________________________________ linux-dvb mailing list linux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb