Thanks Jelle, and Christophe, thanks for your reply. I was thinking in a technical (developer's) way, but didn't mean to start an illegal issue... Anyway I know the answer now, thanks
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 3:03 PM, Jelle De Loecker <skerit@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
What is the definition of this "secured" area?Christophe Thommeret schreef:
> Le Monday 11 August 2008 11:22:43 Jelle De Loecker, vous avez écrit :
>
>> Christophe Thommeret schreef:
>>
>>> Le Monday 04 August 2008 18:58:17 kurt xue, vous avez écrit :
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I have two TechnoTrend DVB-C PCI card and 1 CAM, is it possible to use
>>>> this CAM to descramble signal from frontends of both DVB card?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance for any reply!
>>>> Kurt
>>>>
>>> No.
>>>
>> That isn't a very helpful answer to his problem, is it?
>> He might have wanted any reply, but trying to be friendly wouldn't have
>> killed you.
>>
>> I'll give this a go:
>>
>> There is a way, called "cardsharing", to decode multiple streams with 1
>> cam.
>>
> CAM != CardReader
>
>
>> Do note, however, that some people think this is illegal, but that's
>> because cardsharing has a bad name. There are people who perform this
>> "cardsharing" with other people over the internet, which IS illegal.
>>
> Getting control words outside the "secured" area is illegal.
>
>> Because of this most people don't want us to talk about *any *kind of
>> cardsharing, just to be on the safe side.
>> I can follow their reasoning but it still resembles some kind of
>> illogical censor which we should not tollerate!
>> But I digress ...
>>
>> Because this local cardsharing is not illegal (at least not where I'm
>> from), some set top boxes you buy in the store also have multiple
>> (working) tuners, so they perform some kind of internal cardsharing as
>> well.
>>
> It's not a matter of cardsharing. It's of course technicaly possible to have
> one cam beeing feed with streams from different tuners, but not on most PC
> DVB cards like the TT ones where CI is wired to the card.
>
>
>> Please correct me if I'm wrong or being ignorant ...
>>
> Done.
>
According to you it's perfectly ok to decrypt multiple streams with one
cam... but only if it is with the correct, approved, hardware?
In essence, this is a shortcomming of the TT hardware, can we really
tell people not to fix it using software because it'll break some
ridiculous IP law, or whatever?
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