Hans Verkuil wrote: >> One factor that perhaps adds some weight to this argument/proposal is >> the diminishing importance that analogue TV related issues are going >> to hold over time ( as more and more countries switch to digital >> transmission systems). Of course, the light won't go out for >> analogue TV for a number of years to come, but I think that users >> familiar to the lists will have already noticed the trend towards dvb >> related topics on the v4l list. >> > > v4l is not about analog TV in particular, it is basically for everything > video related that is not a DVB device or a graphics card. This > includes webcams, MPEG encoders/decoders, digital video streaming, > among others. > True enough! > While analog TV will diminish in importance (in some > parts of the world) that does not mean that v4l will become less > important. > hehe...I think we are in complete agreement on that one --> see the amendment I made earlier in the day to this article: http://www.linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Development:_Discussion_of_Video4Linux_API_Version_3 > I disagree. As stated above, v4l really deals with video streams in one > way or another. Analog TV is a fairly small part of that. So I > personally think that v4l is a pretty good descriptor of this > subsystem. (Although there are some oddities like radio and RDS > devices). To keep in sync with v4l-dvb-maintainer I would suggest > v4l-dvb-users and v4l-dvb-devel. > Fair enough (i.e. disagreeing about whether v4l is a good descriptor). But a large point here (for me) is in terms of the branding (i.e. LinuxTV) and a move away from the specific subsystem names which, as we apparently both have agreed upon, are not as clear to the end user. In other words, while v4l-dvb-users and v4l-dvb-devel are good, I think we could do better and capitalise on on the LinuxTV branding with what I suggested earlier. >> - turning to the #irc channels, the same arguments hold, except that >> the dvb related channel isn't even named as such...rather it carries >> the "linuxtv" name ... now, I know that the channel topic headers >> will describe the type of discussion related to that channel, but >> honestly, next to no one heeds any attention to that...so it is of my >> opinion that the situation is even less then clear for the end >> user....in my opinion, its time to make a single channel function for >> all end users .... if so desired even two channels -- >> "#LinuxTV-users" (or even just usurp the existing #linuxtv channel >> into becoming multifunctional) and possibly another for developers if >> they so desire (i.e. "#LinuxTV-dvel") >> > > Well, I'd choose #v4l-dvb, but otherwise I agree. same response as immediately above > I never really think > of this as a 'linuxtv' project because I always thought of it as v4l > and dvb subsystems and linuxtv being just the domain name. > Fair enough, I can see that point. I do, however, as I have argued, believe that the "LinuxTV" name is superior in terms of description and "branding" *. * And by branding, if it isn't obvious, I don't mean to imply that we are trying to sell something, but rather am referring strictly to informational clarity. > Regards, > > Hans > Thanks for the feedback _______________________________________________ linux-dvb mailing list linux-dvb@xxxxxxxxxxx http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb